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07-10-2006, 05:13 AM
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Sansa e200 and Mac?
Ok, i realise that i'm going to get flamed for even considering this- but get over it
 .incidentally this is my first post ^-^ Ok, quite frankly i'm a recentally converted Mac user. I also found the Sansa e270 Mp3 Player on the front of a catalogue, and thought "thats the mp3 player i want to replace my 3rd generation ipod". Being someone who isn't deterred easily, i saw the warning signs all over the sandisk site, ebay, everything else i found on the sansa that said "Recommended Windows XP". Quite frankly- i don't buy it. Now i want information before i actually commit to doing this to make sure i'm not undertaking more than i could handle; - To upload files onto the sansa you can just dump the files on the drive, correct? - What format do videos use (and res's fps if possible (not necessary but hey, it might be nice )?- Can pictures just be uploaded by drag and drop on the drive? - is there a windows application for firmware updates, or is it done on-drive or...? - Is there anything i'm missing? I realise alot of this is covered on the forums, and i have been through the forums, but i thought it'd be best to ask clearly, so i don't get an impression that could be incorrect. Thanks in advance- Shiven P.S: could we keep the anti-mac sentiment to a minimum? i'm here for information not a flamewar 
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07-10-2006, 06:52 AM
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07-10-2006, 09:34 AM
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Excellent! Thanks Tim for the prompt and curteous reply. As for the firmware update on windows thing... well... i'll work out a way around that.
I figure media player playlists wont be too hard to reverse engineer, playlists are just files that point to other files with proper paths... i'm going to get me a sansa very soon *beams* Thanks guys
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07-10-2006, 02:30 PM
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You will also end up with the omnipresent Apple Double files on the Sansa but you can delete them. That is, every foo.mp3 file will have an invisible associated ._foo.mp3 file. Don't do this unless you're comfortable with the command line. "rm" can be dangerous (remove files you actually want to keep) if you're not careful with your typing. Open a shell (terminal.app) and: 1. cd /Volumes/Sansa\ e270/MUSIC to change directory to your music files. 2. ls -a to see all the files, including those that begin with "." 3. rm ._* will remove (delete) every file that begins with ._ 4. ls -a to see if you missed anything. You can also remove the .DS_Store files with 5. rm .DS_Store I do music only so I can't address your other questions. There are playlist limitations on the e200 series that are Mac independent: you can't just organize lists by folders and sub-folders. There is only one playlist possible ("go"?). Etc. BTW, your subject "Call me nuts" is useless. If someone has Mac Qs or issues they will miss this thread. Try to use descriptive phrases that are useful. Last edited by isansa; 07-10-2006 at 02:47 PM.
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07-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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07-10-2006, 08:44 PM
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sorry for the stupid thread title- i was half asleep when i wrote it.
isansa: terminal isn't an issue for me- i used linux for 4 1/2 years before moving to mac osx  Yeah, dot files can be an issue with this sort of thing, but i figure a couple of scripts wont go astray to cleaning it up Tim: thanks for the link, doesn't look too complicated... well compared to the scheme of things... Thanks guys (girls) and otherwise
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07-11-2006, 05:30 AM
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Hello, it is my first post in this Forum. My english is not so good. I`m a Mac-User an I bought the Sansa e260 several weeks ago. To sync my Sansa with iTunes I use a Freeware Program named SyncTunes, wich you can find under the following link:
http://www.nesfield.co.uk/synctunes/index.html It works perfect for me, and you don`t have to deal with .ds-files!
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07-12-2006, 05:39 AM
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Here's an issue I've encountered: Even tho' I delete all the ._* files, there are sometimes a few that remain ("ghost files"?) at the top of the Music > Songs list no matter how many times I delete or move the .DS_Store files. I can't figure out a way to remove those "ghosts" using the Mac CLI alone. There's some other kind of solution that involves a Sansa reset. Quoting from here: "Reset Database without formatting If you have problems with the database (like ghost files) there is no need to format the whole player. Switch the player in MSC-mode (Settings->USB Mode) and connect it to your pc. If you haven't already done so, activate hidden files (here is a guide how to do this). Now go to your Sansa. You should see some new folders there after you activated the hidden files. Go to System\Data\ and delete the Pp5000.dat. After you unplugged the player it should rebuild the complete database." I haven't tried that yet on my 3 remaining ._* files.
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07-12-2006, 07:32 PM
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to avoid it i guess would be to delete the dot files before the database rebuilds, but you can't be expected to do that every time. I had a quick look into it, and was going to slap up a script to just remove all '.' files, until i saw that someone already had a solution with 'SyncTunes'. If SyncTunes ends up being botched, i'll write up a script- i still haven't got my sansa yet (waiting until e280s come around here, where here is Australia :P), but i'll write up a script if you need it. Anyway, get back to me about how your problem goes, be sure to wipe the . files at the same time as the database file, as should be pretty obvious =) Shiven Edit: Script turned out easier than i thought it would. Its only one command, but everyone loves doubleclick! >_< as stated before, i don't have a sansa, but i've run tests on the script and the behavior you've described and it works well. Copy it into a txt file (not RTF!), remove the .txt extention, and put it in your music folder on your sansa, chmod a+rwx (add permissions so that it can be run as an executable) and double click. ********************************* <snip> #!/bin/bash # make a log ls -a > log.txt # find all .*.mp3 files in the current directory and remove find . -maxdepth 1 -name ".*.mp3" -exec rm {} \; ********************************** <snip> at some point, i swear i'll learn applescript... until then good luck! hope this helps! Last edited by shiven; 07-12-2006 at 08:50 PM.
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07-28-2006, 03:44 PM
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Method A: 1 Connect Sansa to Mac. 2 Create a playlist in iTunes. 3 Launch SyncTunes 4 Select playlist from iTunes 5 Select destination "PLAYLISTS" on Sansa 6 Sync A playlist called "ST - listname.m3u" ("ST" = SyncTunes) and ALL the mp3 files are copied to the PLAYLIST folder. Nothing is selectable. Had to manually move the music (.mp3) files from PLAYLISTS to MUSIC. Method B: 1 - 4 as above, except 5 Select destination "MUSIC" on Sansa 6 Sync All the files are copied to MUSIC, including the "ST - listname.m3u" file. The music is there and playable but the playlist cannot be accessed (not visible in the Sansa Music menu). On the plus side, SyncTunes does not leave the AppleDouble "._" or ".DS_Store" files on the Sansa. Added before posting: According to another thread, this one, it is necessary to convert .m3u playlist format to PLP format. If I can find a Mac OS X converter, I'll post again.
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07-28-2006, 04:32 PM
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Synctunes does not make Sansa usable playlists. They are m3u files and the Sansa needs pla/plp files.
Yes, the nice thing about it is that it doesn't leave OS X .* files behind. If you use Finder to remove that OS X files, they get recreated immediately. It's like using a match to put out a fire. The os adds some of these files at volume mount time and Finder creates the rest when you access/change the directory using Finder. There are some methods of cleaning them out with scripts and utilities. If you're uncomfortable using the shell, search http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/ and you should find some other cleaners. bburge
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08-26-2006, 12:59 PM
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e260 Not Showing In "Volumes"
Recently made the switch to mac from a 1998-era Gateway AFTER purchasing the e260 to replace a dead Rio Cali (durned power switch problems). When I plug the e260 into the USB port, the player shows the "Connected" screen and the battery charges, but the e260 does not appear anywhere on the computer as connected (I think they're called "Volumes" on the mac...) Any ideas? Any help is gratefully appreciated!
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08-26-2006, 02:44 PM
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A converter that might work for you OSX people.
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I don't have a mac myself, but I'm pretty sure you guys have an awk interpreter on there .... so it should just need the path changed at the top and you should be all set. Also, I strongly recommend that playlists be made in terms of the files as they are on the Sansa itself ... this greatly simplifies things and tends to avoid the problems the people who're depending on what I glean to be a Windows music manager called Media Monkey keep having.
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08-26-2006, 08:15 PM
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08-27-2006, 12:20 AM
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08-27-2006, 10:00 AM
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Problem Solved!
Brilliant - that did it! I only got the e260 about three weeks ago and only used it in MTP mode. Here's a small follow-up (no big deal - I can add music and that's the important thing!) Every time I disconnect from the iMac, the e260 shows "System Restart" and "Rebuilding Database" I assume that is normal?
THANKS AGAIN!!!
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08-27-2006, 12:04 PM
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