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Old 11-11-2013, 06:58 PM
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hi all.

a bit of an odd question I know :-D
have been thinking if getting some e10s but have read in reviews that they are metal and barrel shaped.. so wondering if they are as heavy as the hippo vb?
plus does that connector in the cable tend to pull them from your ears?
...oh, are the a Y shaped cable?

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Old 11-11-2013, 07:13 PM
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Why not get the ES18 instead, which is said to sound very much the same as the E10, but is only 1/3 the price?
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:21 PM
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hi JK.
thanks for quick reply.
not heard of that model but shall check them out.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:31 PM
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The E10 have a "Y" cord and aren't heavy at all imo. I wear my IEMs with the cables over ears and never have problems with the E10. I have experimented with them with the cable hanging down and didn't have problems then either. I've never used the Hippo VB so I can't say how much different they are.

Wearing my cables over ears took a bit to get used to but once I did I haven't wanted IEMs that can't be worn that way comfortably. There's zero microphonics and any weight is on the top of your ears. When I need to take them out temporarily I dangle over my ears and they're always right there ready to pop back in.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:20 AM
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hi skip
many thanks for the great reply.
almost bought another pair of Philips iems.. but as my other ones aren't very bass focused that would have been silly... dam those supermarkets :-D
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:17 AM
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.....or should I stretch to the phonak 012s....
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:32 PM
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As someone who had both, I can say they are definitely bigger then Hippo VB, especial since Hippo has tighter back side, while E10 remains wide all the way to the back end, so you got to have enough space in your ear to fit. At first a hard fit, I must say I got used to them quite fast though.
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:43 PM
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hi Teyec,
many thanks for that info - that counts them out for me i think as i stuggled with the VBs :/

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Old 11-17-2013, 06:30 AM
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I think VB might be a bit longer too, and that spinning wheel in the back sure doesn't help if they don't fit well. They were my brother's headphones, but I never could get used on using them for longer then 30 minutes, while E10 worked OK after getting used on them and changing the tips (original made it fell out every now and then). After that I could feel them in my ear but wasn't uncomfortable. Maybe e30 would be a good option for your, they looks like same bang for the buck as e10s?
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:20 AM
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hi Teyec.
thanks for the reply.some good thoughts too..I shall look at the e30s
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:23 AM
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they look interesting..are they over the ear design?
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:43 AM
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Yes they are, although I am not sure if you could put them usual style if you put L in right and R in left ear.

Take a look at Martin's review:
http://anythingbutipod.com/2011/11/s...ic-e30-review/

In short, e30 doesn't cost much more, some might have problem with the fit, but the clarity of e30 is considered higher then e10. Also visually e10 looks quite nice in their metal case, while e30 is a bit on cheaper side with plastic case and metal imitation. The cable quality is the same as far as I know.
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I have used both, and I had them at the same time so I was able to compare them. I preferred the sound of the E30. It was more neutral with less bass emphasis than the E10. However, I had major issues with the fit/isolation of the E30, which is why I sold them. I wish I could try them again with some Comply tips which I think would go a long way toward solving my problems, bit honestly the E10s are just as good overall and much simpler to insert (and they are nicer looking IMHO).
I don't see how you can go wrong with the E10s, especially since you can still buy open box ones from Micca (an authorized dealer) with a normal warranty for $19.95 with free shipping.
http://www.miccastore.com/open-box-s...nes-p-104.html
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:29 PM
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thanks guys..my only issue with the e10s was the size and weight..I used to have some hippo VBs and found them to big for my little ol ears :-D
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:30 PM
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but I do like a warm bass sound for sure
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:03 PM
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i was wondering about the phonak 012s as well - they look nice and light and a shaped design .... obviously 3 times the price of the e10s :/
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:26 PM
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or the rha 350s
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:45 AM
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I'm looking to get those too atm. Be aware that production is discontinued in march this year. Also you might look into this difference:
PFE 012 - perfect bass model (1pair of green filters on them)
PFE 022 - 012 + mic on cable

PFE 112 - perfect fit (2 pair of gray filters, 2 pair of black filters, some earhooks and carry pouch)
PFE 122 - pfe 112 + mic on cable

All 4 are actually the same technology, it's just different in filters that change sound accordingly and some other parts in bundle (cause of bundle of 112 the price is a bit higher). I think by your description you might like PFE 012 more for a bit more bass, as 112 only problem was a bit lack of it in quantity, but not quality.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:18 PM
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You might be able to save money by buying the the cheaper PFE 012 than buying the grey filters separately. I don't know if anyone still sells the grey filters or any of other Audeo PFE accessories anymore.

I have the PFE 112 and I really like them for sound quality, isolation, fit and comfort. I do EQ the base up a bit on all my devices. They respond really well to EQing.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:30 PM
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phew! thanks guys - ive been pulling my hair out with this search! :/
ive been round in circles many times - all decent phones reviews seem to follow same format - lots like them, some hate them and some say they fell apart within days!

i was almost going for some on ear cans - the akg 451 ... but then thought, nah, dont actuall want cans

...so then i was back to thinking, what ones have i always desired....and it was the phonak 012s - so very happy that you are rating them too

...so the 012s as the more bass orientated it seems.....but what are these filters? do you mean the silicone tips?

thanks
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how do the 012s wear? part of my interest is their shape - could work well .... or badly

....ahhhh i see - not the tips - they have sound filters too - bit like the VB bass plates i guess

mmm....in dfkt's review he imples that they are to be worn with cables over the ears and that they arent that comfy :/

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