android
  #1  
Old 12-07-2014, 04:47 PM
Sacriversum Sacriversum is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2
Default Connecting to sound system, but controlling from Zip Clip

Hi guys!

Apologies for a potentially odd question, but here is my situation. I have a 4 GB Clip Zip that I managed to successfully pair with a 64 GB Sandisk miniSD card. Everything works great - I managed to transfer the music, played around with themes and such, but there is one more thing I'd like to do: I'd like to be able to connect the Clip Zip to a sound system (both home and car) via USB, but control playback using Clip Zip and not the device I'm connected to.

As it is now, when I connect to whatever, a USB symbol will appear on my Clip Zip's screen and it works perfectly... as a mass storage unit. I can access all the music still, but I have to use cumbersome control schemes that are not suited for handling thousands of songs. Can't use Clip Zip controls.

Is there a way around this?

One last bit of info that may or may not be relevant - MTP versus MSC modes. Would these matter? When I first got the Zip Clip, the slotted miniSD card wouldn't get recognized in Windows at all. It wouldn't show up. Using OF, I switched the device from the MTP to the MSC and then the card showed up. I formatted it accordingly and was good to go. I'm assuming that even after installing Rockbox the Zip Clip is still running in the MSC mode. Would switching back to MTP help with what I'm trying to do? Is there indeed a way to switch between the two modes in Rockbox or do I have to go back to OF? Also, if I make the switch now, will the SD card disappear on me in Windows?

Thank you for any info and apologies for a convoluted question!
Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

  #2  
Old 12-07-2014, 05:35 PM
skip252 skip252 is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,443
Default

Welcome to ABi

You can't control the sound system through USB with a Clip Zip. The USB connection only has connections for charging and file transfer. There's no control interface. Having the file system set to MSC or MTP won't change that.

You should be able connect the CZ through the headphone jack to the AUX IN of the head unit or sound system. Then max the volume of the CZ and control the volume using the sound system. That gives you the equivalent of a line out connection. You then control playback using the CZ. Sounds good when I do it that way in my car or into my sound system.

As you've seen connecting the standard cable shuts down playback and takes it to the USB connection screen. That leaves you unable to do anything until you disconnect. If you want to charge the clip at the same time as you use it to play music you can either get a charge only cable or use Rockbox. In Rockbox you hold the left side of the control pad as you connect. That prevents the CZ from making a data connection and leaves it useable as it charges.

A charge only cable can be used either with the sandisk firmware or Rockbox. Last time I checked on amazon they only cost a few dollars.
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 12-07-2014, 05:47 PM
Sacriversum Sacriversum is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2
Default

Thank you so much for a quick reply. Looks like I'll have to go with that AUX IN option after all. Is there any loss to sound quality by doing it that way I wonder? Not to imply that connecting anything to anything via USB has anything to do with sound quality. I'm just curious. Cheers and thanks again!
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 12-07-2014, 07:43 PM
saratoga saratoga is offline
Rockbox Developer / Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sacriversum View Post
Is there any loss to sound quality by doing it that way I wonder? Not to imply that connecting anything to anything via USB has anything to do with sound quality. I'm just curious. Cheers and thanks again!
Digital out just means a different DAC would do the conversion. If it were better, output would be better. If it were worse, it would be worse. The DAC on the clip series though is pretty close to the limit of what is theoretically possible with 16 bit audio though, so I wouldn't expect much difference either way.
__________________
Interested in Google's Summer of Code ? PM me.
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 12-08-2014, 05:49 AM
Mikerman Mikerman is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,543
Default

For what it's worth, I've used the headphone jack to connect my players to a stereo system for years, and the sound has been just great. After all, that's how you get the sound to your headphones.
Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 AM.