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Old 08-26-2011, 01:08 AM
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SanDisk has indicated that the Clip Zip's clip is more robust than the clip of the Clip+. (Try saying that 5 times, fast. )

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Old 08-26-2011, 03:39 AM
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Hahah yeh i feel for you. But really, u didnt have a file, special doublesided foamy sticky tape and a few suitable clips lying around!??! Shame on you! lol.
I keep moving from place to place, even from country to country, so accumulating stuff isn't practical; I always leave the cheap stuff behind. Moreover, anyone who lives in a studio apartment will tell you that there's never enough space, and that it isn't possible to store everything that could be useful.

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For me it was 5 mins work. For what its worth I live in Australia and the setup I got is secure (more secure than what came out of the factory lol).

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If you find it normal to have to spend time repairing something you've just bought, I don't. I'd rather have paid for a better clip than for a file and several unsatisfactory replacement clips. More importantly, the time it cost me, to go buy everything and perform the repair, could have been better used earning money doing what I do best -- which is not manual repairs. Though not rich, I lack time more than I do money; I didn't buy the Clip+ because it was cheaper than the iPod Nano, but because it was more practical, due to its having physical buttons. Only it wasn't so practical, after all.

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That looks pretty slick Bruce!
But BULKY.

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SanDisk has indicated that the Clip Zip's clip is more robust than the clip of the Clip+. (Try saying that 5 times, fast. )
I'll say "thank you" once. And add a free sigh of relief.

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Old 08-26-2011, 04:18 AM
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A little disappointing. All in all, it looks like a pretty minor update of the Clip+.
Well at least they didn't break too much in a working system. You know besides making it a little fugly.

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Old 08-26-2011, 05:00 AM
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@ Sinocelt,

yeh i was just messing around. I do agree with you, the clip on the clip+ aint good. Or maybe we just got faulty ones :S

But although mine is bulkier it still has the same physical profile once clipped onto shorts or whatnot, it really doesnt add any more thickness to real term use, just when its sitting there it looks big lol.

I preferred the clip on the clip v2. The removable thing was good. Shoulda just supplied a few replacement clips as well in case they break or get lost etc. Nice to be able to have the device thinner if wanted with the removal of a clip tis what i say.

But I still think the clips are made upside down, they should fit the other way around.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:02 AM
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Well, thanks for the review Marvin. This alleviates my fear of my trusty Clip (non +) dying because I know that I'll be able to buy a very decent replacement.

By the way, I'm happy they decided to switch to micro-usb. I've accumulated quite some micro usb cables so far, and I've lost track of my older mini-usb ones.

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Old 08-26-2011, 06:25 AM
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Hopefully the audio quality remains the same, if not better, and rockbox gets ported over.

Damn, the zip puts a halt to my plans of purchasing a clip+.

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Old 08-26-2011, 10:06 AM
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Question diagnostic mode?

Have you tried to enter the diagnostic mode already?

On the clip+ this can be enabled by flashing a firmware ending in a 't' (for test presumably), like clpzt.bin instead of clpza.bin.
The firmware file can be found here: http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmwa...ip01.01.12.zip
Another way is to press and hold all buttons at once during boot, although I have mixed success with that on my clip+.
After flashing a 't' version, there should be a an extra menu item somewhere under system or settings.

Another question: does the clip zip really support RDS? The user manual does not appear to mention it.

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Old 08-26-2011, 10:23 AM
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@bertrik....
I have seen station call letters displayed using the FM radio, but no song titles....so it at least partially works. That may be a reflection on the RDS implementation, or it could be due to my local stations, of which only two or three showed up with even call letters.

And no, I have not tried the diagnostic mode. I'm about to begin a FLAC battery test, but this evening or tomorrow I will investigate the diagnostic mode.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:40 AM
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Does the LCD screen really have these weird lines going through it while its being used like it does in this unboxing video?



This would be very distracting and annoying to me.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:32 PM
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Does the LCD screen really have these weird lines going through it while its being used like it does in this unboxing video?
This would be very distracting and annoying to me.
You don't see them when you are using it. Trying to take video of it, that is where you see it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:35 PM
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Hopefully the audio quality remains the same, if not better, and rockbox gets ported over.

Damn, the zip puts a halt to my plans of purchasing a clip+.
The sound is the good old Clip sound, to my ears.

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Old 08-26-2011, 12:56 PM
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people who have a clip zip can you tell me if the ui is laggy like the fuze + or not. I ask since its pretty much the same so I didn't know if it was the same underlying buggy code

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Old 08-26-2011, 12:59 PM
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people who have a clip zip can you tell me if the ui is laggy like the fuze + or not. I ask since its pretty much the same so I didn't know if it was the same underlying buggy code
It is not laggy. Perhaps because the hardware is different, even though the graphics used on the player are the same.
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:37 PM
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thinking about getting this for the wife. her only complaint on her older sansa player is she cannot scan through a song, you know, listen to her favorite part of the song over again (must be a girl thing).
can you do that on this model?

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Old 08-26-2011, 01:44 PM
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thinking about getting this for the wife. her only complaint on her older sansa player is she cannot scan through a song, you know, listen to her favorite part of the song over again (must be a girl thing).
can you do that on this model?
Do you mean being able to hear sound while you rewind? If that is what you mean, then the answer is no. You can look at the progress bar and try to guess from that how far back you've gone, if that helps any.
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:56 PM
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nah, she just wants to be able to forward and reverse during the song itself.
could be she wants to listen to the chorus from "wanted dead or alive" over and over again.

her old one only let her forward to the next song, or the previous.

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Old 08-26-2011, 01:58 PM
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Just be aware thatwith previous Clips/Clip+ that FLAC and Vorbis were horrible battery life hogs.....like half the battery life of MP3.
Really? Why would playing Vorbis be a battery hog when the files are comparable in size to the Mp3s? I thought the main battery killer during playback was file retrieval from flash storage, which is why playing the larger Flac files results in less battery life.

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Old 08-26-2011, 02:00 PM
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nah, she just wants to be able to forward and reverse during the song itself.
could be she wants to listen to the chorus from "wanted dead or alive" over and over again.

her old one only let her forward to the next song, or the previous.
OK, well you can definitely forward/reverse through the song.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:04 PM
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I'm in for two then
thanks!

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Old 08-26-2011, 02:05 PM
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Really? Why would playing Vorbis be a battery hog when the files are comparable in size to the Mp3s? I thought the main battery killer during playback was file retrieval from flash storage, which is why playing the larger Flac files results in less battery life.
I believe Saratoga said it was due the the Sandisk firmware not having efficient decoding of those two formats.
In Rockbox though, FLAC and Vorbis are both better than MP3 in runtime, last I knew.
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