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Old 01-15-2011, 06:40 AM
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Hi everyone!

writing here cos I have been dreaming since much time about having a hw media player, now that I have some money I so want my dream to come true!
But i'm getting lost between all the offers.

Basically, the Cowon J3 sounds awesome to me, but then I looked at the price and I saw about 200 €..well, quite a surprise!

so I will start by explaining what I'm looking for...and I will also tell you that couple years ago, when I could just dream, I kinda found my ideal player in the Cowon D2

Use the MAIN and only use is: music. if it plays also videos, cool, if it doesn't, I won't cry. same goes for flash apps and other stuff
Type/Design don't care, I'm just interested in contents; but yeah, OLED screens are fancy!
Features here we go: a part mp3 and compressed format, i feel the need to have a player that can play flac, ape, wv and possibly directly from cue file. I don't have my entire collection on lossless, but some albums I value I do. Given this, SQ is also very important, external storage is a must, the ability to scrobble (not real-time also) is a very, very welcomed feature (don't wanna say necessary, but..)
Display I don't care
UI/Controls don't care, as long as it is user-friendly, well designed and not tricky

now to the sad note
Budget I hoped I could stay in the 100 € budget; I could eventually afford 200€, i do love music, so if that is the price the market says I have to pay in order to have something I need, I could. but you know mindsets and how they work, i was just prepared to 100 :P

said this, that is why (though I have to check how much is priced) I was even considering to 'go back' to Cowon D2.
as far as it concerns me, it doesn't lack anything compared to the J3, right?

or do you have other manufacturers and models that you wish to advice me?

many thanks for your patience!
bye!

PS: on a side note..when is the Cowon D3 comin out? thought it will be way more expensive than the J3 i suppose
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Old 01-15-2011, 06:57 AM
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for your budget, a Sansa Clip+ or the older Fuze - you can put Rockbox on them.
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:08 AM
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for your budget, a Sansa Clip+ or the older Fuze - you can put Rockbox on them.
thanks for the input, but they don't seem to fulfill my wishes..
no SD slot, no lossless playability and I'm afraid the SQ is not that high.
These are marketed to people who just want a player that can fit their pockets or do jogging with
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:14 AM
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They're a little better than that - the Fuze and Clip+ are 2 of the highest regarded players on this forum.

they play lossless (if you can tell the difference) and have microSD slots.
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:27 AM
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They're a little better than that - the Fuze and Clip+ are 2 of the highest regarded players on this forum.

they play lossless (if you can tell the difference) and have microSD slots.
then my excuses and I 'll perform better searches, as I haven't seen those features in the aforementioned players!
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:08 AM
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thanks for the input, but they don't seem to fulfill my wishes..
no SD slot, no lossless playability and I'm afraid the SQ is not that high.
These are marketed to people who just want a player that can fit their pockets or do jogging with
VERY WRONG!!! Better start getting your info at some better sources.

The Clip+ (but not the Clip), Fuze, and Fuze+ all have a microSDHC slot. They all play FLAC. Not many players (if any) with significantly better SQ; however, the EQ is not highly rated.

You may be right on the marketing point; but marketing has absolutely nothing to do with the player's capabilities.

Thy do have some issues..battery life (but I don't see that in your post), and the MSC/MTP/Autodetect thing (set it to MSC), and database refresh.

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Old 01-15-2011, 08:31 AM
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See if you can get D2+.
As cowon is clearing its stock of D2+ and offering it at attractive price.
You buy clip+/fuze but see that if you can install rockbox into it.
or you can look for second hand J3.
Cowon D3 is expensive than J3.
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:35 AM
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These are marketed to people who just want a player that can fit their pockets or do jogging with
Look at our #2 top rated player of 2010, then read the review. - http://anythingbutipod.com/2010/12/t...ayers-of-2010/
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:37 AM
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Clip+ is my vote
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:04 PM
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The OP needs to do some research,...the Fuze and clip+ have microSD card slots, and both are amazingly great sounding - especially when Rockbox is installed as the firmware on the player.

Read the info dfkt linked to, and then read my link - then you'll have a better grasp of what each player that's been suggested to you can do.
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Old 01-15-2011, 06:57 PM
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well, after the first answer of nodirectionhome, I just looked at the manufacturer website (and also looked the wrong model, didn't notice the + ) and info aren't that exhaustive on Sandisk website.
but as you all suggestes, I did further research and it really seems like that the Clip+ might be the one for me, though it's really compact sizes.
Indeed, could be awesome to use it also for jogging.
and I also saw (indeed thanks to dfky for the link) how much high is usually ranking this Clip+ in reviews
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Old 01-15-2011, 07:42 PM
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I too would get the D2+. Best sound quality I've heard and accepts SDHD cards.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:44 AM
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Yes, if D2+ is still available grab that. The long battery life and SD card(not mini) is going to be useful
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:55 AM
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I own a clip+ & a D2, the clip+ gets used and the D2 is dusty. Wanna buy a D2???
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:56 AM
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ha!
in the meantime I got the Clip+, awesomely small!

just out of curiosity, how much would you charge me for the D2??
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