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The Grooves have plenty of bass (or at least my pair has). Maybe you just need to get a better seal, try different tip sizes, or give them some time to "burn in".
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:11 AM
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The Grooves have plenty of bass (or at least my pair has). Maybe you just need to get a better seal, try different tip sizes, or give them some time to "burn in".
I have the middle sized tips, and they seal OK. Maybe burn-in will help. How do they compare to the VBs?
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:17 AM
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The Hybrids won't fit easily, but with a tiny drop of water on the nozzle you should get them on with no effort. As a bonus, they will be pretty tight on there, certainly not coming off in your ears.
machiaventa: dfkt is exactly right. The Hybrids do fit the VBs but it takes a tiny bit of elbow grease to get them on. dfkt always has great suggestions. I also suggest installing the tips at an angle to the nozzle - once you get one side on you can wiggle the the whole thing on. And indeed, the Hybrids will def stay on the VB nozzle for sure

I love the Hybrids and use them exclusively on my VBs and my Panasonics.

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How do they compare to the VBs?
They're rather similar, yet not as refined in most aspects. Bass on the VB is tighter, deeper, phatter, more impactful, the Groove are a bit more loose down there. Treble on the Grooves is a bit more grainy and harsh than on the VB. Build quality is also better on the VB. For the $38 price the Grooves are fine phones, but I wouldn't consider them "giant killers".
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They're rather similar, yet not as refined in most aspects. Bass on the VB is tighter, deeper, phatter, more impactful, the Groove are a bit more loose down there. Treble on the Grooves is a bit more grainy and harsh than on the VB. Build quality is also better on the VB. For the $38 price the Grooves are fine phones, but I wouldn't consider them "giant killers".
Thanks. That's nice to hear. I somehow managed to position the phones better, so the bass is ok now.
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Thanks for the tips guys (pun intended lol).

So dispose now that the bass is better do the Grooves still sound terrible?
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Thanks for the tips guys (pun intended lol).

So dispose now that the bass is better do the Grooves still sound terrible?
No. They sound alright for the price price I paid ($0)... J/K, I'm actually pretty happy with them. They just need a little bit of fiddling around before they sound the best. I've used them just for a couple of hours, but I'll report back in a few days. They tend to sound a bit sibilant, but burn-in might fix that.
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I am enjoying my grooves. Like most IEMs they are very fit dependent. I wont use them much once the VBs get here, but they may replace my work IEMs.
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I am enjoying my grooves. Like most IEMs they are very fit dependent. I wont use them much once the VBs get here, but they may replace my work IEMs.
I feel exactly the same. I hope my VBs arrive soon.
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Did anyone's ship yet?
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nope. no response to my email either
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Same here.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:58 PM
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Have faith...Uncle Wilson and Jaben have repeatedly shown that they will do the right thing for people....



If no response in a couple days, PM me - I can try to leverage some contact I have had with Uncle Wilson on your behalf. Not promising anything, but I am happy to assist if possible
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I ordered the VBs from Jaben, and they will reply eventually... I just hate the waiting part.
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"Tsk, tsk, tsk...All good things to those who wait..."
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That just doesn't sound right. The Grooves I currently have are quite a bit sibilant... What are the VBs like regarding that matter?
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dfkt can best answer that one I think...my own experience with the Grooves was not so great at the Jaben store in HK - I didn't like them at all whereas dfkt feels they are quite acceptable for the money. I personally would put a bit more stock in dfkt's opinion on such matters Also, perhaps my in-store demo pair was bad?

Some feel there is a little sibilance on the VBs, or so I have read. Me? I personally like a brighter high end so I don't tend to notice that sort of thing. Again, where the VB really shines is in the low end balls/rumble/thump. But the VBs are NOT muddy like the CX300's [to me] or low end muddy and weak across the rest of the sound spectrum [like I found the Monster Beats Dr. Dres]...

For excellent low end rumble that is fast and you can feel it in your chest, the VBs are amazing to me still, especially since that comes without sacrificing a lot in the mids, highs and a good "soundstage" to my ears.
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It would be nice if someone who owned both could give me an answer (dfkt). Thanks les, you are quite a helper. I read on Head-Fi that 200 (?!) hours of burn-in help with the sibilance on the VBs, but I don't trust those cable magic believers...
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