android
  #1  
Old 06-21-2010, 02:16 AM
sublime88 sublime88 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2
Help High Capacity Phones?

I'm looking to combine my mp3 player and cell phone to be kind of like an all-in-one device. I would like to be able to store all of my music (about 30GB) on a phone. The iPhone is an obvious one, but are there any other good music phones that can hold this amount of music? Or does anyone know of new phones that are coming out?
Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

  #2  
Old 06-21-2010, 02:44 AM
medion's Avatar
medion medion is offline
Anythingbutiphone Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shreveport, La
Posts: 1,929
Default

In terms of cost, right now the 32GB Iphone is the best option, but you're going to run out of space, as you won't really have 30GB available for your collection.

The Samsung Galaxy S (variants) is coming out on every carrier in 8GB and 16GB flavors, with the possibility to add up to 32GB MicroSDHC for a total of 40/48GB. This, however, comes with a cost. It's safe to assume that the cost for the phone will be tiered like the Iphone, being $200/$300. On top of that, a 32GB MicroSDHC today is $200. That's $500 for a 48GB phone, as opposed to $300 for the 32GB Iphone.

I'm going to be honest here, in that I feel that today's smartphones, while convergent devices, don't do as well as a dedicated device. My wife is a photographer, for example, so she carries several REAL camers with her at all times. I've never seen her use her Iphone to take a picture, EVER. I'm more into gaming and media, so I'd have a PMP and a PSP in addition to my phone.

So for you, I'd recommend sticking with a dedicated MP3 player for now, unless money is not an issue.

Last edited by medion; 06-21-2010 at 04:50 AM.
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 06-21-2010, 04:09 AM
sublime88 sublime88 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2
Default

I guess I was just hoping for something now that we might see in 5 years or so. I just hate my phone that I have and my Creative Zen Vision M is just a friggin brick, so I wanted to two turtles with one stick(haha). I do hate Apple the empire it has become but maybe I will give in and get the iPhone and keep only my favorite albums on it. Thanks for the input.
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 06-21-2010, 09:06 AM
TackyTiger's Avatar
TackyTiger TackyTiger is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Airstrip One
Posts: 165
Default

I bought a Nokia N900 a month or so ago. This phone has 32Gb internal memory (27Gb usable) and a micro SD slot.

It's basically a Linux box and the implementation is somewhat raw, so unless you have geek tendencies, I probably wouldn't even consider it. That said, if you have, it's pretty damn amazing - I still haven't got over using SCP/ SSH over WiFi to sync my music/ contacts.

Anyway, I digress, the sound isn't too bad on it. Here's some tests against a Sansa Clip+, with no load and driving some Sennheiser PX100's (tests using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496). These tests are with both at maximum volume.

http://peskett.co.uk/RMAA/ClipVn900.html

I don't think the Nokia does too badly, considering the additional circuitry it has (GSM/3G/GPS/camera/WiFiBG/bluetooth). If you were using a headphone amp (no load), I don't think there's much in it.

Speaking of bluetooth, while it's never going to compare to a wired set of headphones, the bluetooth quality from the N900 shames the crap you get from a Cowon S9.
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 06-21-2010, 09:36 AM
medion's Avatar
medion medion is offline
Anythingbutiphone Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shreveport, La
Posts: 1,929
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TackyTiger View Post
I bought a Nokia N900 a month or so ago. This phone has 32Gb internal memory (27Gb usable) and a micro SD slot.

It's basically a Linux box and the implementation is somewhat raw, so unless you have geek tendencies, I probably wouldn't even consider it. That said, if you have, it's pretty damn amazing - I still haven't got over using SCP/ SSH over WiFi to sync my music/ contacts.
No MMS on that thing yet, either. It is pretty raw in many respects.

However, if you do consider getting this, keep in mind that while it is quad-band GSM (support for 1G/2G on T-Mobile and AT&T), it's WCDMA support is 900/1700/2100, meaning it uses T-Mobile's 3G bands, and not AT&T.
Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old 06-21-2010, 10:40 AM
Jack4L's Avatar
Jack4L Jack4L is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 1,530
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by medion View Post
No MMS on that thing yet, either. It is pretty raw in many respects.
.
Do you really even use MMS's anymore?

I feel like they were at a critical point 4 or so years ago when data connections on 3G were still fairly new and expensive, but now what phone doesn't have a data connection, the ability to upload directly to facebook or just send as an e-mail attachment?
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 06-21-2010, 12:29 PM
medion's Avatar
medion medion is offline
Anythingbutiphone Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shreveport, La
Posts: 1,929
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4L View Post
Do you really even use MMS's anymore?

I feel like they were at a critical point 4 or so years ago when data connections on 3G were still fairly new and expensive, but now what phone doesn't have a data connection, the ability to upload directly to facebook or just send as an e-mail attachment?
Yes, I do. Not all of my friends have a smartphone, or a defined data plan, or a Facebook. And, attaching the images to the text is easier than uploading to FB and then pointing your targeted friend to it (if he/she even has a FB account).

You're comment reminded me of what the Iphone fan said about MMS before they got it, and what they say about Flash now.
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 06-21-2010, 04:33 PM
Hirudin's Avatar
Hirudin Hirudin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 585
Default

Wonder what people might say if some company released a phone without SMS support... "Do you really need text messages when you have all the other options?"
E-mail sucks! It's clunky, it doesn't push. It's invariably cluttered with spam... etc. Facebook is fun, but not everything on there is pertinent. If I get a text I know it's something that requires my attention. On the other hand the majority of the stuff on Facebook can be skimmed over.

I've had the N900 since it was released. The fact that it doesn't have MMS support out of the box bugs the hell out of me. There is a third party application called fMMS which does work some of the time, but has been pretty unreliable for me.

If you're a Linux guru you'll probably love the N900. If you're a typical nerd (this is pretty much where I fall) you will probably like it. If you're a normal consumer you'll probably hate it.

Personally, I got a Nexus One to replace the N900. I haven't used the N900 in about a month now and there are things about it that I miss (physical keyboard primarily) but Android is more refined and there are more apps. Also, Nokia can't make up their F**king minds WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Last year it was Symbian with touch, yesterday it was Maemo, now it's Symbian^3 (I guess), tomorrow it's Meego. There's no telling what stupid frigging half-baked operating system they'll be sorta working on next year let alone a month from now.

The Nexus One has problems of its own though. Maybe the Droid 2 will actually be worth a damn.
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 06-21-2010, 11:25 PM
medion's Avatar
medion medion is offline
Anythingbutiphone Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shreveport, La
Posts: 1,929
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirudin View Post


Personally, I got a Nexus One to replace the N900. I haven't used the N900 in about a month now and there are things about it that I miss (physical keyboard primarily) but Android is more refined and there are more apps. Also, Nokia can't make up their F**king minds WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Last year it was Symbian with touch, yesterday it was Maemo, now it's Symbian^3 (I guess), tomorrow it's Meego. There's no telling what stupid frigging half-baked operating system they'll be sorta working on next year let alone a month from now.
This is my beef with Nokia right now. They are pushing S40, S60, Maemo, Meego, Symbian^3, while also idiotically telling people to wait for Symbian^4. They are pushing more smartphone OSes than Google, Apple, RIM, and MS combined. And that is why they will ultimately fail.
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 06-22-2010, 01:04 PM
Jack4L's Avatar
Jack4L Jack4L is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 1,530
Default

Uh, no need to liken me to an iPhan here, just asked a question. You brought up the MMS thing yourself :P You could have chosen a dozen other reasons not to get an N900, the whole MMS reason seemed kind of weak in comparison. Although I still think the N900 is one of the best browser experiences available if you have the data to back it up, and aren't completely lost without pinch to zoom.

If MMS messages are a big thing still, not trying to undermine their merit, they just never reached much mass market appeal over here.
Reply With Quote

  #11  
Old 06-23-2010, 05:17 AM
The DarkSide's Avatar
The DarkSide The DarkSide is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Qns Vlg, NYC
Posts: 16,061
Default

In the USA MMS is still a quite frequently used feature,.......and I personally hate twitter.
Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old 06-23-2010, 06:55 AM
medion's Avatar
medion medion is offline
Anythingbutiphone Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shreveport, La
Posts: 1,929
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4L View Post
Uh, no need to liken me to an iPhan here, just asked a question. You brought up the MMS thing yourself :P You could have chosen a dozen other reasons not to get an N900, the whole MMS reason seemed kind of weak in comparison. Although I still think the N900 is one of the best browser experiences available if you have the data to back it up, and aren't completely lost without pinch to zoom.

If MMS messages are a big thing still, not trying to undermine their merit, they just never reached much mass market appeal over here.
Fair enough, sorry to come across as snapping at you.

I just don't like when otherwise solid phones skimp on what should be a basic feature. If a $20 pay-as-you-go phone from Wal-Mart has a feature, it's basic. I think that the Iphone started thsi BS, and now anyone making a high end phone thinks they can get away with it. Apple does it for the same reason Nintendo does it, so they can raise the sell volumes of their "updated" model the next year. Nokia is likely doing it only because they're trying to adapt a desktop OS to a mobile touch-screen platform, and they have bigger fish to fry than worrying about the little things.
Reply With Quote

  #13  
Old 06-23-2010, 11:19 AM
JK98 JK98 is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,058
Default

Have you thought about battery life? I wouldn't want a phone built into my mp3 player. I guess it is okay for those who don't get important calls, but who would want to miss important calls because they ran down their battery listening to music? I guess one could carry a large capacity rxternal battery pack, but this is not ideal.
Reply With Quote

  #14  
Old 06-23-2010, 03:16 PM
weedalin's Avatar
weedalin weedalin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: In my house
Posts: 652
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by medion View Post
This is my beef with Nokia right now. They are pushing S40, S60, Maemo, Meego, Symbian^3, while also idiotically telling people to wait for Symbian^4. They are pushing more smartphone OSes than Google, Apple, RIM, and MS combined. And that is why they will ultimately fail.
Maemo was scrapped for MeeGo, which is a combination of Maemo and MobLin (which was also scrapped by Intel). Just a note. The n900 will receive the MeeGo build.
Reply With Quote

  #15  
Old 10-27-2010, 03:27 PM
paulr paulr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 144
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JK98 View Post
Have you thought about battery life? I wouldn't want a phone built into my mp3 player. I guess it is okay for those who don't get important calls, but who would want to miss important calls because they ran down their battery listening to music? I guess one could carry a large capacity rxternal battery pack, but this is not ideal.
That's only with an iphone or N8 . With most phones you can just carry a spare battery for the phone, which is tiny. I've done that for years. I have an altoids tin in my jacket pocket, that contains my earbuds/handsfree mic and a spare E63 battery. I could put a few memory cards in there as well if I wanted.

I do use MMS sometimes. I have the cheapest t-mobile prepaid voice plan because I simply don't use the phone as a phone very much. The prepaid voice plan comes to about $8 a month if your usage (like mine) is low enough and you buy the larger cards. The cheapest data plan is several times that much. I use voice or SMS a few times a week, and occasionally send a phone cam photo by MMS. The idea of listening to streaming music or video on a phone just seems crazy to me. I have enough storage in the phone to hold a reasonable sized music collection from my PC, and I don't have enough appetite for mobile connectivity to be willing to pay for a data plan at the moment. If I really have to get online with the phone, I can usually find a wifi access point nearby someplace.
Reply With Quote

  #16  
Old 12-28-2010, 03:43 AM
Yazad Yazad is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bahrain, Middle East
Posts: 121
Default

Samsung Wave is an awesome multimedia device too, very reasonably priced, and you can buy a 32GB microSD card slot.
Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
all in one, high capacity phone, music phone

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:40 AM.