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Old 07-21-2010, 10:07 AM
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I've never been able to make that comparison between the players.....I didn't get my first Clip+ until months after I sold my old Fuze.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:28 AM
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Oddly, I noticed that the Clip+ seems just a wee tiny bit less powerful. Maybe that's not the right word. Like, the Fuze is a tad louder/punchier and the sound is a bit more forward, fuller. Same file/type/earphones. Turning up the volume on the Clip+ seems to compensate, so it could just be the way they're calibrated with the volume interface. It's nothing of concern in the least, just a small observation. Could also be my ears playing tricks on me.
Did you volume match the two in order to do this comparison, from what I've noticed many of the sansa's sound the same when you do that.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:47 AM
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Did you volume match the two in order to do this comparison, from what I've noticed many of the sansa's sound the same when you do that.
I've recently seen a number of suggestions to conduct volume matched testing. When I've researched on how do that I've come up with some results involving very elaborate techniques with some relatively expensive equipment. I don't know for sure but it seems that just careful listening won't give reliable results either.

Do you know of an inexpensive, reliable technique? Or can you or someone else point me in the direction of something simple and reliable? Thanks.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:04 AM
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skip252 I try to volume match as close as possible by hearing, which isn't perfect. But you can read http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...howtopic=71773 for more information.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:19 AM
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Same place my research led me to. For my needs it's just not that serious. I'm not conducting hard research, just scratching my curiosity itch. Thanks again WalkGood.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:35 AM
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Do you know of an inexpensive, reliable technique? Or can you or someone else point me in the direction of something simple and reliable? Thanks.
Plug the sansa into the line in jack on your computer, bring up the Windows sound recorder and record a test track. Save to WAV. Load it in foobar, right click and choose "replaygain > scan per track gain". The dB it gives you is the volume number you want. Repeat until you get both devices to have the same volume.

Theres probably quicker ways if you have real recording software, but thats the basic idea.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:04 PM
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Thank you. I had not thought to use the Replaygain values to match the players volumes.

Using Audacity as the recording software I'm able to get matching Replaygain values with only a few trial and error recordings. I haven't found a way to determine what the recorded volume level is using Audacity yet. No doubt something obvious I don't know enough to recognize. I'll keep digging.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:37 PM
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Hi. I found this thread while looking for an answer to the subject, and after mailing Sansa I got this response.
Thanks for the heads up.
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