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Old 04-16-2010, 01:57 PM
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I am now genuinely excited for the future of my Zune HD for the first time in a long time. =) This is great news.
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:15 PM
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awesome news !!!!! now all i want to see are groups and scenes making awesome stuff for zune
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:24 PM
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Going to wait this out a bit, see what happens before I try. If anyone could put a video if it in action, that would be awesome.
I just tried it out and had no issues. It deploys like any other XNA game and just takes a few seconds.
The demo (video not possible here) itself is just a yellow screen with a 4 colored triangle spinning and pulsating. To turn off the demo just touch the screen and it will shut down returning you back to the wallpaper screen.

There is a longer than normal pause between the demo closing and the wallpaper screen but it doesn't appear to restart the device. Once you're done to delete if you want is just touch\hold until the menu comes up.


NOTICE: I just found out while typing this post that NONE of my other apps would function after removing the demo until I manually restarted the player.
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:29 PM
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I was excited when I first read this as I thought it was a move from Microsoft (silly now that I think about it) but I worry what this means for the Zune pass. Will labels use this as an excuse to bale on the service? I imagine potential messing with DRMed Media more than virus potential is the reason that the zune shuts off after 3rd party apps. Could be completely off base...
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:09 PM
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Apparently DRMd stuff is still DRM'd. Theres no way around that with this. All this is doing is giving 3rd party people the accessibility to use native code and have access to opengl es 2.0 and internet and stuff.

As for virus's, possibly, needa be a bit careful who you download games from, make sure they are trusted or tested. However I think worst comes to worst you would have to do a hardware reset and just reinstall the firmware.
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:43 PM
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Interesting news (and a step in a more exciting direction for the Zune devices, IMO). Now who wants to bet that the Zune Team comes out with the most rapidly developed firmware update in history...specifically to plug this hole?

At least then we can marvel at how fast the Zune Team was...
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:56 PM
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Interesting news (and a step in a more exciting direction for the Zune devices, IMO). Now who wants to bet that the Zune Team comes out with the most rapidly developed firmware update in history...specifically to plug this hole?

At least then we can marvel at how fast the Zune Team was...
Yes...this might be a motivation (if they afraid so much of it)...but i don't think that they will spend their time on this...they don't have the resources to do it...It would be very ironic if they release a quick update that fixes a "security hole".

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Old 04-16-2010, 03:58 PM
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Interesting news (and a step in a more exciting direction for the Zune devices, IMO). Now who wants to bet that the Zune Team comes out with the most rapidly developed firmware update in history...specifically to plug this hole?

At least then we can marvel at how fast the Zune Team was...
I thought the exact same thing when I first read the article.

It will be patched in no time flat and then back to the "Soon but I can't say when" statements.
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goddamit you beated me to !
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:01 PM
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Lol I don't think I would update my player if they patched they "security hole".
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:17 PM
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Hey Dave, if you read this.... Pleeeeeez leave the hacks alone. I don't want to see another psp instance. Hackers were constantly trying to fight Sony....
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:20 PM
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1.) This should have been here in the first place. If not an app store, a way to downlaod apps from websites.
2.) If Microsoft breaks this in a future update, I will hate them forever. Don't be evil. don't be Apple. There is no harm from this. DRM is safe, and if a user (somehow, magically) bricks their device due to running bad apps that's their own fault.
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:40 PM
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Heh. For the psp, the original founding hacker and god went by the name of Dark_Alex. Now, for the Zune, we have 'itsnotabigtruck'..... That name will go down in history.
Seriously, tho, I am excited for this. Let's see if THESE people can make it a drag and drop player lol.
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:41 PM
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2.) If Microsoft breaks this in a future update, I will hate them forever. Don't be evil. don't be Apple. There is no harm from this. DRM is safe, and if a user (somehow, magically) bricks their device due to running bad apps that's their own fault.

...if they brick the device, they can always restore the firmware...
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:23 PM
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I do not think that Microsoft should intervene simply for "security" reasons. A completely locked off and closed platform is pretty useless. People need to have a certain amount of responsibility with their electronic gadgets, it's no one's fault but their own if they download a bit of malicious code.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure Sony didn't intervene on the psp for security reasons. They were just trying to be assholes lol.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:28 PM
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http://gizmodo.com/5518856/zune-hd-g...apps-and-games

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/z...to-developers/

Well I bet they think twice about a patch with the news coverage just in a manner of a few hours.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:40 PM
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I dont think they will remove the hack unless its really easy for them without spending any time with no risk. The amount of people who will use this will be tiny right now I would suspect...
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:02 PM
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wow this is great news!
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:49 PM
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I wonder if a PS1 emulator is possible
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