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Old 04-05-2010, 08:02 PM
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Default Unable to add Xvid files to Zune library

I've been trying to add Xvid files to my Zune library to sync them to my newly updated Zune HD, but it continues to reject them, stating "media type supported." I've noticed that others don't seem to have this issue, is there something I'm doing wrong?
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:18 PM
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I haven't seen a message like you have, but I have some xvid files that simply won't be found by the software. I don't know what the deal is
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:32 PM
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Are you sure the files you are trying to add are xvid\avi files?
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:42 PM
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According the reputable site I downloaded them from, yes

Actually, they are part of a series. Episodes 1-4, 6, and 7 are OK. but obviously 5, 8 and 9 are not. What the difference between them is, I don't know
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:47 PM
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According the reputable site I downloaded them from, yes

Actually, they are part of a series. Episodes 1-4, 6, and 7 are OK. but obviously 5, 8 and 9 are not. What the difference between them is, I don't know
Right click on the file and select properties. Then you can see what the file format is.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:53 PM
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I've tried with two different files, both with a .avi extension encoded with Xvid. One is 720p and one is 480p. Both are not detected by the Software, and when I drag them in, it says "media type not supported."
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:54 PM
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Well they are all .avi's for sure....I'm not THAT computer illiterate As to how they are actually encoded, I don't know. There's probably software out there to tell me but I'm too lazy to do it since I probably won't watch these on my Zune anyway.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:59 PM
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Xvid support isn't perfect, meaning some files still won't be accepted.
The majority, however, will.
Use what you can and convert the rest.
Try MediaInfo and give us a copy of the inside of your files.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:02 PM
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Here's one:

Code:
General
Complete name                    : F:\zunemovies\Amadeus-DVDRip.DC.AC3.5,1[Eng]1984.avi
Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
File size                        : 1.46 GiB
Duration                         : 3h 0mn
Overall bit rate                 : 1 158 Kbps
Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2178/release

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Custom
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 3h 0mn
Bit rate                         : 703 Kbps
Width                            : 608 pixels
Height                           : 272 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.25:1
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.177
Stream size                      : 907 MiB (61%)
Writing library                  : XviD 1.2.0.dev47 (UTC 2006-11-01)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : 2000
Duration                         : 3h 0mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Stream size                      : 578 MiB (39%)
Alignment                        : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 96 ms (2.30 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration     : 96 ms
Language                         : English
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:03 PM
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Here's another:

Code:
General
Complete name                    : F:\zunemovies\New.Moon.2009.720p.BRRip.XviD.AC3-ViSiON.avi
Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                   : OpenDML
File size                        : 3.40 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 10mn
Overall bit rate                 : 3 727 Kbps
Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2542/release)
Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2542/release

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                      : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 2h 10mn
Bit rate                         : 3 077 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.35:1
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.184
Stream size                      : 2.81 GiB (83%)
Writing library                  : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : 2000
Duration                         : 2h 10mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Stream size                      : 598 MiB (17%)
Alignment                        : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration     : 500 ms
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:17 PM
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I was under the impression that only Xvid videos using the .mp4 container would work with the Zune HD. If this is true, it would explain why the Xvid .avi files aren't detected.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:26 PM
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I've had success with an Xvid AVI File with 624x352 resolution and 2-channel MP3 audio.
No success with an Xvid AVI with 1280x720 (720p) and 6-channel AC3 audio.

Not sure if it has to do with resolution or the audio track.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:30 PM
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Here's another question: I thought that the Zune had native MP4 support with H.264, but even when I put in a file that was converted using the Zune HD preset in Dan Cunningham's EncodeHD, the Zune software still reconverts it, wasting a ton of time.

So would it be true that all .mp4 contained Xvid files work? Or is it just any Xvid with 2 channel audio? Too bad the Zune software can't just resample the audio or something. This is proving to be quite frustrating.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:31 PM
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The Zune software supports .avi containers with MPEG-4 Part 2 ASP (Xvid/Divx) video and 2 channel MP3 audio, and has since the last software update. The example above has 5.1 Dolby Digital (AC-3) audio... so it can't be added to the Collection.

The Zune HD device will have the same limitations, of course... but now, with the 4.5 firmware release, compatible content will not require transcoding.

chambo622, yes it plays H.264 content natively without conversion... but it has to be within the limitations of the device. Baseline profile, etc. See the specifications. If it exceeds it, it will require conversion.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:31 PM
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are you able to see any thumbnails on your xvid videos?
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:37 PM
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Thumbnails are hit and miss for me... most are missing for me with Zune on Vista X64, but it seems to be a little better with Zune on Windows 7 X64.

I'm not a good test case, though. I haven't encoded content to the obsolete .avi container & Xvid in years... and only have a few test files left.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:40 PM
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Unfortunately torrrents/downloads are hard to fine with stereo audio it seems.

Is there any application that everyone knows about that will convert files perfectly within the specs so that they can be synced immediately with the Zune software without it transcoding again?

FYI thumbnails for my Xvid files are fine in Windows 7, and they play back fine in Windows Media Player.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:44 PM
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Nope. Read my message again. .avi needs to contain MPEG-4 Part 2 ASP (Xvid) video and 2 channel MP3 audio to function, not Dolby Digital (AC-3) or other audio codecs.

Seriously, it's time to abandon Xvid... re-encode your original DVDs, recorded TV shows, etc. to modern Zune compatible codecs from the start and never bother with conversion again. There are many tools, including HandBrake.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:46 PM
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Right I actually edited my post after figuring it out So it definitely needs just plain MP3 stereo audio.

Any tips on a good converter that will transcode exactly to Zune HD specs? EncodeHD by Dan Cunningham I thought would work, but the resulting files still have to be reencoded by Zune software. I'm hoping there's a good solution
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:52 PM
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You might want to lay-off stating you don't really own the content involved. (Torrent, etc.) I'm pretty sure most folks won't have much sympathy that compatible stereo files are hard to find.
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