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07-29-2009, 10:59 PM
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What does the Zune HD REALLY need? Something completely original that we've never seen before. Maybe never even thought of before. This something should also be useful and efficient to the point that we won't know how we ever got along without it. Something no one expects, and that will cause every tech website, every news outlet, EVERYONE to proclaim the genius of it followed by "It's so obvious we don't know why no one thought of it before!"
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07-30-2009, 02:10 PM
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And to stay on topic I'd like to see MS add some amazing games, app store, fix known bugs and add basic necessary features such as on-the-go playlists, sleep timer/alrm clock, video playlists, and add more criteria to their rather basic autoplaylists..... and then market the hell out of it!
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07-30-2009, 05:22 PM
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As companies dont actually have proper 'man managers' anymore trying to make sure they get stuff done properly, just makes it all the more difficult. Chances are that's why we'll never get to the moon again or Mars, but thats another issue for another forum.
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07-30-2009, 06:39 PM
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08-03-2009, 02:44 PM
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08-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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 I can think of a few things from other players that I'd love on the Zune HD though. - The Sony Walkman X has a podcast app that updates podcasts you've selected without needing a PC, even for syncing. - The Samsung P2, P3, and probably a few other Samsungs have bluetooth that will let them act as a phone when a paired with a phone. - A couple of my players have an on-board FM transmitter. Nice in any car with an FM radio. - Some come with the TV output cable if they support TV output. Be nice if they threw in a docking port to HDMI cable with the HD. - Some come with a case, and even when it's a simple slip case it's a nice touch. - I have a remote control that "wakes up" when you pick it up. No button presses needed. Easy enough to do with an accelerometer.
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08-03-2009, 04:55 PM
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I'd love a player that can receive the new digital TV broadcasts in the US. THAT would actually get me to deal w/any software that MS throws at us.
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08-03-2009, 05:25 PM
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08-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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good sound quality
and a lot of video formats support (drag and drop dream) that and Im sold even if I dislike MS
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#113
08-04-2009, 10:34 AM
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I would never get one. I'm never going to buy music on-line; I don't want to subscribe to anything; and I don't want a relationship with Microsoft.
And that's without going into the limitations of the player: no drag & drop, no EQ, no Bluetooth etc. Last edited by Dreamnine; 08-04-2009 at 10:47 AM.
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08-04-2009, 11:29 AM
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On the lines of that, maybe have a dock or something that turns it into a dvr. That would be friggin' awesome, but it might be hard to do. I would think streaming internet radio would be pretty cool, but most people probably don't listen to that, and it wouldn't have people flocking to buy a zune. It would reach more people if it could sync with Mac (and while your at it, Linux). It may not be possible, but have it be $100 less than the touch.
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#115
08-04-2009, 05:09 PM
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I agree that marketing is key. I've had a number people look at my Zune and think it's an iPod because that's all they know. Product placement would be good. Get the device in TV shows, movies, etc. Also, getting others to promote the device would be great. I'm not sure how the business model works, but ads from Best Buy saying "Get your Zune HD at Best Buy" would be good. I've always felt those kinds of ads are promoting the business and not shamelessly promoting the device. I don't hear "Buy a Zune HD," I hear "Come to Best Buy, we have Zune HDs." The Zune HD sounds more like the reason to go to the store, not what's being sold. Catchy ads would also be great, but that's kind of a "no duh!" thing. Promoting the fact that it has an nVidia Tegra chip in it might help as well. nVidia carries some name recognition, which is what the Zune needs. So it might help to stamp "Powered by nVidia" on packaging, ads, etc.
Since there's so much talk about an app store, I imagine one's coming (if not at launch, eventually). But I don't see it working as well as the app store for the iTouch/Phone. The reasoning being is the sheep herd is huge. They're bound to come up a billion apps and by luck, a few of them are bound to be good. MS might need to do a bunch of internal development, creating a bunch of quality programs. The XNA community will pick up on developing for the Zune HD, but only after they see the benefit. There's been talk of support for select Live Arcade games and that would be huge as well. People could start off with a collection out of the gate. I don't see it hugely undercutting the iTouch price to be a plus. Since there's a lack of name recognition, a lot of people may view it as a cheap knockoff. That might hurt sales. If a person's willing to pay the price of an iTouch, they're probably willing to pay the same for a quality alternative. The general consensus in technology is that cheaper means not as good. So if people see the HD as cheaper, they'll assume it's not as good since most people who buy PMPs don't do much research. I also question how much Mac support would help. Most Mac owners I know are devoted to Jobs and won't give up their Apple products. Linux support on the other hand might be a tad helpful. People have talked about turning it into a DVR, but how about just bringing up support for ATSC recorded programs from Windows Media Center? I would love to be able to send the shows I've recorded with the DVR function of WMC to my Zune, but I can't. I understand there's some sort of license thing in the way. Perhaps that could be gotten around if people who put shows on their Zune could only do so if they agree to have the system automatically delete shows older than 2 months (or some other time frame). So if I choose the option to put shows on my Zune HD, a show will delete itself 2 months after I record it. But then if you don't want to have your shows delete after 2 months, you can choose that, but can't put them on the Zune. That would allow me to put my shows on the Zune HD and Hollywood can put some of their paranoid thoughts to rest (since all Hollywood does is treat every consumer like they're out to cheat them!). In reality, they need two things to be successful: 1. A good product (which it looks like they have) and 2. Good marketing. Will MS put the dollars behind this platform to promote it? If they don't, I feel like all the development costs of the device have been wasted.
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08-06-2009, 01:10 PM
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#118
08-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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Okay, perhaps I exaggerated a bit. Even so, $200 is too much for this. Perhaps if it is priced at $125-150 it might sell well. Who knows, it might be discounted down to the $125-150 price range once production is at full speed.
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08-06-2009, 03:40 PM
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#120
08-06-2009, 04:15 PM
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Price will certainly be a key factor in how well the Zune HD does. For these devices I've listed 16gb and 32gb sale prices.
Cowon S9. Same screen and size. No Wifi: $199.99, $269.99. Sony X Series. Smaller screen. Has WiFi: $292.85, $388.00. iPod Touch. Non OLED screen. Has WiFi: $274.95, $369.00. I'm thinking a 16gb Zune HD could sell for $249 with the 32gb being $329. Still seems steep to me, but those are cheaper than the Touch yet with WiFi the ZuneHD is worth more than an S9. MS would sell 5 times as many if they matched the S9's prices of $199 and $270. JMHO.
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