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07-05-2009, 01:46 PM
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What about h.264
In some forums i read that the s9 can be able to play h.264 with the right conversion settings. is that true and if yes, do the vids still look as good as on a "full h.264 support" player?
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#2
07-05-2009, 03:38 PM
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#3
07-06-2009, 11:02 PM
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If I convert my .mkv(h264) file to avi, will it work?
Also, if I dnld the file provided in the link above, it play h264 files (aftr conversion), right? I mostly have got 300mb .mkv files. What could be the solution for me? Thanks.
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#4
07-07-2009, 07:57 AM
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H264 will work if the audio track is MP3 and it's kept at 480 Width. Mediacoder and Super are good for encoding such files. Myself I would just stay with the Native Xvid Support, the player handles those files well, I think H264 Sucks a bit more battery too, but that's probably negligible.
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#5
11-05-2009, 12:13 AM
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You guys probably already know this, but H.264 MP4's work now.
Edit: Oh, I just realized that there's some audio lag, but that's probably my settings being stupid. Edit 2: Mmm, just certain animez having been encoded improperly to begin with (I swear, some of these subbers). Everything else works great! I just upgraded to firmware 2.5 (from 2.41b2, not using that awful UI from 2.5). Don't know how long its been around, but just thought I'd give this thread a bump. :3 No more Xvid/x264 via .avi shenanigans, yay! Basic setup, set your audio/video bitrate to whatever you desire: Video:
My MediaCoder x64 settings/preset if anyone's interested (its nothing special). Copy pasta: Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <MediaCoderPrefs><node key="overall.ui.mode">Advanced</node><node key="overall.ui.language">1</node><node key="overall.ui.optionTab">1</node><node key="overall.ui.param">1244,850,505,161</node><node key="overall.ui.noWelcome">4530</node><node key="overall.task.destdir">X:\SaveFolder</node><node key="overall.task.tempdir">X:\SaveFolder</node><node key="overall.output.maxFileNameLen">52</node><node key="overall.subtitle.slang">en</node><node key="overall.subtitle.encoding">Unicode</node><node key="overall.subtitle.font">C:\Windows\Fonts\FRADM.TTF</node><node key="overall.demux.audio">false</node><node key="overall.demux.video">false</node><node key="overall.audio.encoder">FAAC</node><node key="overall.video.bitrate">1500</node><node key="overall.video.quality">10</node><node key="overall.video.par">VGA 1:1</node><node key="overall.video.source">MPlayer</node><node key="overall.video.autoEncoder">false</node><node key="overall.video.encoder">CUDA Encoder</node><node key="overall.container.muxer">FFmpeg</node><node key="overall.playback.render">false</node><node key="overall.plugin.dir">plugins64/</node><node key="audiosrc.winamp.dir">plugins64/</node><node key="audioenc.lame.bitrate">192</node><node key="audioenc.lame.stereo">Stereo</node><node key="audioenc.lame.path">.\codecs\lame64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.vorbis.path">.\codecs\oggenc64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.faac.mode">Bitrate</node><node key="audioenc.faac.bitrate">160</node><node key="audioenc.fraunhofer.path">.\codecs\mp3sEncoder64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.musepack.path">.\codecs\mpcenc64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.aac3gpp.path">.\codecs\enhAacPlusEnc64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.wavpack.path">.\codecs\wavpack64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.wavpack.decoderPath">.\codecs\wvunpack64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.flac.path">.\codecs\flac64.exe</node><node key="audioenc.ape.path">.\codecs\MACDll64.dll</node><node key="videosrc.jm.path">.\codecs\ldecod64.exe</node><node key="videoenc.xvid.path">.\codecs\xvidcore64.dll</node><node key="videoenc.x264.level">30</node><node key="videoenc.x264.bframes">0</node><node key="videoenc.x264.b_adapt">Disabled</node><node key="videoenc.x264.cabac">false</node><node key="videoenc.x264.vbv_maxrate">1500</node><node key="videoenc.x264.vbv_bufsize">2000</node><node key="videoenc.x264.weight_b">false</node><node key="videoenc.x264.fast_pskip">false</node><node key="videoenc.x264.gh">true</node><node key="videoenc.x264.path">.\codecs\x264_x64.exe</node><node key="videoenc.cuda264.profile">Main</node><node key="videoenc.cuda264.preset">Custom</node><node key="videoenc.cuda264.gop">true</node><node key="videoenc.cuda264.deint">true</node><node key="videoenc.cuda264.path">.\codecs\cudaH264Enc64.exe</node><node key="videoenc.jm.path">.\codecs\lencod64.exe</node><node key="videoenc.ffmpeg.options">-qscale 3</node><node key="videoenc.theora.path">.\codecs\theora_encoder_64.exe</node><node key="videoenc.wm.path">.\codecs\wmcodec64.exe</node><node key="audiofilter.resample.samplerate">48000</node><node key="videofilter.scale.enabled">true</node><node key="videofilter.scale.width">480</node><node key="videofilter.scale.height">272</node><node key="videofilter.scale.dsize">true</node><node key="videofilter.frame.fps">24</node></MediaCoderPrefs> Haven't tried using the CUDA encoder in MediaCoder with the S9 (works great on the ZuneHD, which I hate using). Will play around with that and report back. Best thing about MediaCoder's CUDA: it uses both your CPU and GPU to do the encoding, unlike programs like Badaboom which rely solely on the GPU. Last edited by TheWolfster; 11-05-2009 at 12:23 AM.
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11-05-2009, 09:11 AM
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TheWolfster, do your settings use h264's CABAC encoding, or the easier-on-the-hardware CAVLC? You can check that with Media Info, for example.
EDIT: Nevermind, just saw the <node key="videoenc.x264.cabac">false</node> line in the Mediacoder preset. Too bad no player except the O2 (and maybe some others I don't know of) seems to support real h264 encodes. CAVLC is all nice and dandy, but CABAC is maybe the single most important reason to use h264, the reason that makes h264 look so much better than XviD and others.
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#7
11-05-2009, 08:31 PM
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I'll set it to true and see what happens!
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#8
11-05-2009, 09:16 PM
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for idiots like me, does this mean videos encoded for the ipod touch will now play fine without the need of any transcoding?
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#9
11-05-2009, 09:37 PM
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So after hearing some good news about this being to play mp4 files I 'aquired' some mp4 files and can report some good news and bad news.
The following samples played fine. General Complete name : L:\Video\californication.s03e03.itouch.sample-mw.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom File size : 6.06 MiB Duration : 1mn 0s Overall bit rate : 847 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Writing application : Lavf52.36.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Baseline@L3.0 Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1mn 0s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 715 Kbps Width : 480 pixels Height : 272 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16/9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 24 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.228 Stream size : 5.11 MiB (84%) Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format version : Version 4 Format profile : LC Format settings, SBR : No Codec ID : 40 Duration : 1mn 0s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 128 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Resolution : 16 bits Stream size : 937 KiB (15%) Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 General Complete name : L:\Video\californication.s03e04.itouch.sample-mw.mp4 Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom File size : 6.17 MiB Duration : 1mn 0s Overall bit rate : 862 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Writing application : Lavf52.36.0 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Baseline@L3.0 Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1mn 0s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 730 Kbps Width : 480 pixels Height : 272 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16/9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 24 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.233 Stream size : 5.22 MiB (85%) Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format version : Version 4 Format profile : LC Format settings, SBR : No Codec ID : 40 Duration : 1mn 0s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 128 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Resolution : 16 bits Stream size : 937 KiB (15%) Encoded date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Tagged date : UTC 1970-01-01 00:00:00 Quote:
Any info as to if this could be fixed by cowon would be awesome. Last edited by bxbomber; 11-05-2009 at 09:46 PM.
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#10
11-06-2009, 03:52 AM
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Ok w8 so the s9 plays videos with the .mp4 container with AAC audio now? O.o
Has the s9 always supported AAC and mp4 or is this a feature of the new 2.50 firmware? If it's the latter then Cowon may possibly be working towards polishing h264 support a bit more before announcing official support... Hopefully this might mean CABAC support is coming soon too =D Last edited by riku0116; 11-06-2009 at 03:53 AM. Reason: spelling
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#11
11-06-2009, 08:13 AM
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I dumped three MP4 videos onto my S9 (with 2.50) and was delighted to watch them all play flawlessly. This is new with the latest firmware as far as I can tell.
What this means is that Cowon is eyeing the Zune HD, and working to make sure the S9 can play anything the HD can (and more). I love it!
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#12
11-06-2009, 07:27 PM
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Can you copy and paste the media info stats of these files, i've come across some mp4 files that don't work and want to know why.
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#13
11-11-2009, 04:55 PM
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11-12-2009, 09:43 PM
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#17
11-18-2009, 07:35 PM
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To be honest I was just using mediacoder with the ipod touch settings. If someone could post a media coder sample preset that works perfectly I would greatly appreciate it.
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#18
11-18-2009, 09:03 PM
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so after updating my version of mediacoder and tweaking some setting i finally managed to get mp4 h264 files to play flawlessly.
anyone know what the max bitrate is? so far i've done up to 900 and the files played flawlessy.
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11-25-2009, 04:25 PM
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#20
11-28-2009, 08:54 PM
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^ Very true Kirtar. Three pass CPU is still best.
bxbomber, the main difference I see between those two files is variable fps. That is most likely your problem. If the orginal rip/encode was variable, you'll need to force a constant fps. This is a big problem with anime subbers too, who use variable fps. The max bitrate for the S9 is about 2000 Kbps. Additionally, it won't handle videos over 2.1GB, give or take a few hundred megabytes (I've tested this extensively). Max video width is still 720, height around 480. dfkt, Cabac encoding doesn't always work. It's been rather hit or miss. I can't figure out why.
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