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Old 01-08-2009, 11:03 AM
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So hopefully before production is complete, they'll get in touch with these SD makers and get support for SDxc, because it's not too far away!

Pretty impressive specs though, thanks!
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From Enzo's Twitter page while at CES; seeing the Zii/ZMS-05 in action:

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Ok now I'm impressed with creatives zii. Its being shown running 4 hd screens off of one zii chip.
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Well, according to this press release on the Zii.com website, Grandeye (Halocam; looks cool) will be one of the first products to use the ZMS-05. Hopefully they will be able to attract some bigger names.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:15 AM
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i found some new ZII info today, and i'm preety excited about creative again

Link: http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/07/c...ved-up-by-fcc/
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Do you know if the developer edition will act as a normal player as well?
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What are the pros and cons of the Android OS?
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excuse me i read the os is andorid is true?
thanks what os use(what are you think)
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I very much doubt Creative would use anything as open and useful as Android.
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I think A.Z.P.Z. better get a translator.
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Okay, I have done a little digging through the Zii processor develpoment and device info. The following facts and notes are not necessarily the specs of the new Zii portable player but should spark some conversation as to what we could be in for.

I know that some facts are repeated, they are just facts taken from the links and listed for your viewing pleasure.

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Memory bandwidth - 2.6 GBytes/sec <o></o>
<o></o>
Power management<o></o>
H.264 BL 720p video playback in under 300mW<o></o>
<o></o>
30fps 720p BP, 5mbps, 96KHz AAC <o></o>
<o></o>
<o></o>
Integrated HDTV TV encoder<o></o>
<o></o><o></o>
NTSC, PAL, SECAM <o></o>
<o></o>
High definition: 480p, 576p, 720p, 1080p <o></o>
<o></o>
Standard definition: 480i, 576i <o></o>
<o></o>
RGB and YUV component output <o></o>
8-bit color components
<o></o>
Wide screen signalling and closed captions
<o></o>
<o></o> Macrovision® option <o></o>
<o></o>
http://www.zii.com/resource/zms/DMS05-PB-23DEC08.pdf
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Zii supports-
Typical Applications <o></o>
Portable Media
3D Navigation <o></o>
Mobile Internet Devices (MID)<o></o>
4.3”, 24-bit 800x480 WVGA Integrated 4-wire touch screen controller (that means resistive)<o></o>
SD and SDHC support<o></o>
Mono Speaker and Microphone<o></o>
Stereo Line-In (3.5mm jack)<o></o>
Mic-In (3.5mm jack) <o></o>
5x buttons (on/off, reset, 3 additional) <o></o>
<o></o>
44-pin powered, 2.5ATA disk connector (??? maybe for the test model only ???)<o></o>
<o></o>
http://www.ziilabs.com/products/ziilabs_evm_datasheet_28JAN09.pdf<o></o>
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<o></o>
Audio / Voice Codecs <o></o>
<o></o>
<o></o>
MP3 Decode + Encode <o></o>
WMA9 Decode + Encode <o></o>
<o></o>
AAC LC/LTP/HE Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
Dolby® AC-3 Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
PCM Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
Ogg Vorbis Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
G.726 Decode + Encode <o></o>
<o></o>
Video Codecs
MPEG 4 AVC/H.264 Decode + Encode <o></o>
<o></o>
WMV9/VC1 MP/AP Decode + Encoder <o></o>
<o></o>
MPEG 1 and 2 Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
MPEG 4 SP/ASP Decode + Encode (SP) <o></o>
<o></o>
XviD Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
DivX 4/5 Decode
<o></o>
<o></o>
Motion JPEG Decode <o></o>
<o></o>
Photo Browser <o></o>
<o></o>
Browse control interface <o></o>
<o></o>
Fast frame-to-frame skipping <o></o>
<o></o>
Interactive pan, zoom and rotation <o></o>
<o></o>
Image transition effects <o></o>
<o></o>
File Browser <o></o>
<o></o>Camera Application <o></o>
<o></o><o></o>
Process still, video and audio <o></o>
<o></o>
Utilises Image and Media Processing libraries <o></o>
<o></o>
Digital Zoom <o></o>
<o></o>
White balance (manual and auto) <o></o>
<o></o>
Auto exposure and contrast<o></o>
<o></o>
Noise removal <o></o>
<o></o>
Sharpening <o></o><o></o>
Colourisation
<o></o><o></o>
Pre-ported 3rd Party Applications <o></o>
ZiiLABS work with the open source community and partner companies to make pre-ported applications and tools available to customers, including; <o></o>
<o></o>
Adobe® Flash Lite 3.1 <o></o>
<o></o>
Opera® for Devices<o></o>
<o></o>
CSR® Software GPS <o></o>
<o></o>
Instant Messenger client <o></o>
<o></o>
Video Conferencing <o></o>
<o></o>
2D/3D games such as Sudoku <o></o>
<o></o>
http://www.zii.com/resource/zms/DMS05-SDK-PB-23DEC08.pdf<o></o>
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I just saw the new details for the Zii Egg, man, I think I want one!!!
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This might sound like a silly question, but will the Zii Egg support games? I'm guessing yes, as they are open source to adding apps.

Also, has anyone heard what the battery life will be like? I'm just curious because I want to compare it to the Cowon S9 (which has 55 hours - apparently).
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This is originally from a post on dapreview.net: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...cid=11&id=2971

It's a preview of the Creative Zii Egg. Not much, but a little bit for us to digest in the interim.

Also, cnet asia has a video hands on: http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2009/07/3...ative-zii-egg/

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I very much doubt Creative would use anything as open and useful as Android.
press release says they will be offering support for both their own os and andriod...
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What exactly is the Plazsma and Google's Android OS'? Just different operating systems for the Zii Egg, right? What are the differences and are there any devices out already using them or either one?
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Plazsma is new, with little known about it so far.
Android if Google's open source operating system for cell phones and media players. Do a google search for "Android OS" and you'll learn more than you want about it.
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While everything that this player brings forward is awesome, it's also horrible news. The idea behind this device isn't to take on the iPod Touch, instead, Creative seeks to market its hardware. It says that companies can take its product and rebrand it after adding their own software (at least, as I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong). Instead of a massive collection of awesome software on one device, we're just going to end up with various software versions of the same device, many of them counting on the awesome hardware and speed to work wonders with crappy software. All sorts of second-rate companies that we've never heard of are going to pop out of nowhere with what seems to be an awesome player. How do you keep up with something like that? Even if you could, how annoying must it be to not be able to unlock all the software potential of a player? Sure an SDK is great, but at $399, your average computer programmer, for better or worse, won't be able to get his hands on it. I really hope I'm wrong...
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While everything that this player brings forward is awesome, it's also horrible news. The idea behind this device isn't to take on the iPod Touch, instead, Creative seeks to market its hardware. It says that companies can take its product and rebrand it after adding their own software (at least, as I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong). Instead of a massive collection of awesome software on one device, we're just going to end up with various software versions of the same device, many of them counting on the awesome hardware and speed to work wonders with crappy software. All sorts of second-rate companies that we've never heard of are going to pop out of nowhere with what seems to be an awesome player. How do you keep up with something like that? Even if you could, how annoying must it be to not be able to unlock all the software potential of a player? Sure an SDK is great, but at $399, your average computer programmer, for better or worse, won't be able to get his hands on it. I really hope I'm wrong...
Oh man, I hope you are wrong too... In Aus, the same thing has happened to the iPhone. You cannot send or received MMS with most network providers...
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Only time will tell. The developer's verions comes aleady loaded with either Android or Plaszma and will be fully functional (but not fully exploited). Neither video review could demonstrate the 10-finger multitouch because there were no apps on board using it. I think they (Cerative) realized their own programmers wouldn't have the time or resources to really exploit the device so they are leaving it to the SDK and 3rd parties. The FCC approval was for both a Zii and a Zii Egg, which suggests to me there will be a retail version eventually called simply the Zii. Maybe even the Zii One.
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How much will the zii cost for developers to buy when it releases and will you be able to run full android and install apps like with the G1 or is it just a watered down verison?
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