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Old 07-28-2008, 12:11 AM
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Default WMA MP3 or OGG?

Out of those three formats, what is the best?
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:46 PM
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ogg vorbis is generally regarded as sounding better at equivalent bitrate. I personaly rip my CDs in ogg vorbis at q5 (~160 kb/s).
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:13 PM
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For compatibility reasons I stay with the MP3 format (it is the only format that will play on all of my audio players). I also encode my audio files at a higher bitrate to improve the sound quality.
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:26 PM
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WMA, MP3, or Ogg Vorbis? Out of those three formats, which is the best?
What do you mean by best? Best compatibility with the widest range of MP3 players? MP3. Best sound quality at a medium bit rate? Ogg Vorbis.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:23 AM
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For compatibility reasons I stay with the MP3 format (it is the only format that will play on all of my audio players). I also encode my audio files at a higher bitrate to improve the sound quality.
I've done a little ogg and flac but as a rule I stay with MP3. Its just the safe way to go.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:30 PM
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I use LAME mp3 -v0 for most stuff, Ogg vorbis when perfect gapless playback is required. As I understand it, it's hard to distinguish between the three at high bitrates. It's at lower bitrates where the differences are more noticable. So if you've got a 1 GB player and want to cram in as much as you can, Ogg vorbis is probably the way to go.
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go w/mp3 - high bitrate VBR. It's compatible w/all players on the market, and the SQ is hard to differentiate from lossless files. Also saves space to allow more songs to be placed on the device.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:27 AM
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OGG sounds best to me, but I'm not sure if too many players support it. OGG~256 = mp3~320 to my ears.

Btw, why do you people prefer VBR to CBR. I always thought in theory CBR would be better?
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OGG sounds best to me, but I'm not sure if too many players support it. OGG~256 = mp3~320 to my ears.

Btw, why do you people prefer VBR to CBR. I always thought in theory CBR would be better?
For the same file size vbr is superior to cbr. But clearly 320kbps cbr is superior to 192kbps vbr in sq only.
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For the same file size vbr is superior to cbr. But clearly 320kbps cbr is superior to 192kbps vbr in sq only.

Yeah, I read one of the wiki links that were posted on the forum, very helpful.
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But clearly 320kbps cbr is superior to 192kbps vbr in sq only.
Do you hear a difference between them in an ABX test?
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:12 AM
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Mp3 and OGG Both are good with their own use. But, the differences of both are really noticeable.
Mp3 use due to its compatibility with the widest range where OGG best due to quality at a medium bit rate.I mostly prefer MP3 because of requirements of large range.
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I use LAME MP3 because its compatible with all players, and my walkman can't use OGG
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Been using LAME mp3 for a while. My experimenting with ogg and flac is over.
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Do you hear a difference between them in an ABX test?
I know this is a late reply (I just saw it for the first time).

I can ABX sucessfully all the way up to 224kbps on many songs. Nearly anything 224 or above I fail at ABX (with the exception of super rare killer samples). This is ABXing from the original source of course.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:28 AM
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Mp3 is the most used one, with a low quality per bit
WMA is proprietary, not a lot of support and it has a higher quality per bit
Ogg is open standard and supported by pretty much anything except for iSucks, and has a higher quality per bit than mp3, dunno about comparing with WMA, but I'd say go for OGG.
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Ogg is open standard and supported by pretty much anything except for iSucks, and has a higher quality per bit than mp3, dunno about comparing with WMA, but I'd say go for OGG.
Actually, there are precious few DAPs out there that support Vorbis (the correct term for the lossy audio codec within the OGG family, which also includes FLAC, Speex, and Theora). MP3 and WMA, on the other hand, are both ubiquitous, supported on nearly every DAP, non-traditional players, and computer operating systems.
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lame mp3 V0, my ears don't discern the difference it, mp3-320 and FLAC.
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I think pretty much every Cowon and Sansa has ogg these days, iRivers too.
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only the iSux not and cheap/old phones
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