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Old 07-19-2009, 09:10 PM
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For some reason the drives that have the apple logo don't want work on a Zen(at least not any I have tried). If anyone has had success doing so please post how you did.
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Saunic View Post
Player version: 30GB (Firmware before: 1.61.01e / after: 1.62.02)
Installed drive:
Hitachi Travelstar C4K60-Slim (HTC426030G5CE00)
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Toshiba MK1231GAL
(120GB, 5mm)
Status: Works

Comments: zif connector not sanded - had a hard time pushing it into place. New hard drive has the Apple logo on it. Its whole metallic side (without stickers) should look toward the battery. I had no difficulty to format, but some problems to load the firmware in order for the ZVM to work again (For details: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=35196)

Hi, where did you buy the MK1231GAL from?

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Old 10-28-2009, 05:28 PM
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Default Upgraded hdd now can't get firmware loaded

I have a Vision M 30gb. Upgraded the hdd to Toshiba MK1231GAL (120GB, 5mm) I've seen that Saunic was able to do this hdd http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32403
Anyway I've downloaded the mp3 recovery tool and no matter what i get "Your player is not connected." In windows explorer my Vision M shows up with the storage media and 50mb of space.

I'm at a lost on how to get the firmware on there now. I've download a bunch of things to try it and none have worked. I'm running Vista Home. Although I got the same issue on my XP sp3.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:20 AM
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Player version: 60GB Firmware 1.21.02
Installed drive: Hitachi HTC426060G8CE00
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: 120GB Toshiba MK1214GAH (from ebay)
Status: Works perfectly
Comments: Wanted to register here to say thanks for all the information, this went nearly flawlessly. The top plastic bit, the first thing you pry off, snapped in half but was easy enough to super glue back together. The blue shock absorber needed a small amount of trimming on one of the corners to fit the new hard drive. ZIF connector needed quite a bit of sanding to fit. Other than those minor things everything is working great. Thanks again to everyone here.
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:47 AM
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Player version: 30GB Firmware 1.62.02e
Installed drive: Hitachi 30GB HTC426030G5CE00
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Toshiba 80GB MK8025GAL
Status: Works perfectly
Comments:

I have just registered to say thanks to everyone who posted on the subject of changing hard drives for the Zen Vision M. My change to 80G was very straight-forward after formatting, rebooting and then reloading the firmware on the Zen itself - then connecting to PC for firmware 'upgrade' to the same version as above. After that it was just like a brand new Zen but with 80GB space. (about 76k MB)

However a word of WARNING to save you some time and money! Sanding down the ZIF as suggested in many of these posts damaged my first ZIF cable even though I was very careful and tried to sand as little as possible. I had to buy a replacement. Just push the ZIF cable in carefully on one side first then it will gradually eventually be able to be worked in from the other too - it is very tight as it's not technically the right size but DO NOT SAND THE ZIF CABLE in my opinion! Also, the cable doesn't go in as far as the original so don't force it too much or expect it to sink in very much or you may break it. Otherwise it works perfectly. I'm amazed and very pleased that I still don't have to succumb to an iPod again!

I would be interested to know if anyone else gets the MK1231GAL 120GB 5mm, or even a 100GB 5mm (if there is one?) drive to work in it, or has an opinion on it, but at the moment I've got plenty of space so I'm more than happy for now.

Thanks again everyone!
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:43 PM
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Just joined the forum to say thank you to every single one of you.

Your attempts and information have helped me to succesfully fix the broken Hitachi 30GB HD of my ZVM by replacing it with a Toshiba 30GB.

Thank you!
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Old 02-27-2010, 02:23 AM
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Player version: 60GB Slim Firmware 1.21.02
Installed drive: Seagate ST760211DE
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: 80GB Samsung HS081HA
Status: Works
Comments: This HS081HA HDD was taken out of a dead iPod 6G. It was reported incompatible with ZVM in a topic, but I found it works with my player. It took a lot more time to reload firmware, and the upgrade tool on PC showed the upgrade failed (timed out?). But the player accpeted the firmware after all. I think it's due to the HDD's 4KB sector size (not the usual 512B). Everything seems working fine now, no other issues found.

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Old 05-04-2010, 03:06 AM
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guys, would Toshiba MK1626GCB (160GB) work? its offered at the same price as the 120GB MK1231GAL (and by the same ebay seller) which at least one person so far (saunic) has succesfully used as a replacement.
and how about Samsung HS161JQ (160GB)?
i'm getting ready to upgrade my ZVM30...thx!

UPDATE: (looks to me like the HS161JQ won't work...) as for the other two, basically, if i understand it correctly, the Toshiba MK1231GAL is 40-ZIF and the MK1626GCB is 18-ZIF. for as long as it's ZIF HDD and the ZVM was originally ZIF, does it matter if it's 18-ZIF or 40-ZIF?

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Old 06-16-2010, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Saunic View Post
Player version: 30GB (Firmware before: 1.61.01e / after: 1.62.02)
Installed drive:
Hitachi Travelstar C4K60-Slim (HTC426030G5CE00)
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Toshiba MK1231GAL
(120GB, 5mm)
Status: Works

Comments: zif connector not sanded - had a hard time pushing it into place. New hard drive has the Apple logo on it. Its whole metallic side (without stickers) should look toward the battery. I had no difficulty to format, but some problems to load the firmware in order for the ZVM to work again (For details: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=35196)
I attempted the same upgrade but found the MK1231GAL to be incompatible and I do not recommend you try the same operation unless you are in possession of greater expertise than me or you have a better explanation of how to make it work than that provided by Saunic.

I explained more about my case in another thread: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...430#post477430
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:58 PM
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Player version: 60 GB slim (Firmware: 1.21.02)
Installed drive: Seagate ST760211DE
Connector: Zif
Replaced with: Samsung HS082HB (80GB, 8MB, 5mm) 75.00 ebay
Status: works great
Comments: Absolutely no problems with the zif connector
Just joined to say thanks for all the advice, seems much faster while I am syncing +6000 tracks.
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Old 10-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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Player version: 30GB / Firmware: 1.62.02 (updated via USB)
Installed drive: Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 Slim (HTC426060G8CE00)
Connector: ZIF (no sanding needed; carefully wiggled it in)
Replaced with: Samsung HS082HB 80GB
Status: works like a champ!

Comments: Holy shit, this was easy to do! The hardest part was getting the damn screws back in. Thank you all very much for you help. Totally thrilled.

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Old 01-27-2011, 03:21 PM
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Player version: 30GB (Firmware: e.g. 1.41.01)
Installed drive: Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 Slim 30GB(HTC426060G5CE00)
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Toshiba MK1011GAH (100GB, 8MB, 8mm)
Status: Works (sanded down connector carefully and it fit. make sure the replacement hard drive has no apple logo on it!)
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:54 AM
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Player version: 30GB (Firmware: 1.62.02)
Installed drive: Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 Slim 30GB(HTC426030G5CE00)
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Toshiba MK6028GAL 60GB
Status: works. planed down with a razor blade.
Some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boehrdi...7625885477025/
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:24 AM
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Default 120Gb Samsung HS12YHA

Player version: 30GB (Firmware: 1.62.02)
Installed drive: Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 Slim 30GB(HTC426030G5CE00)
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: Samsung HS12YHA 120Gb

Status: works!!! planed down ZIF cable with a razor blade. Firmware update reported that it failed done from executible update after ~ 30 minutes, but really didn't.
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:47 AM
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Just registered to post another working drive as this thread helped me when i first upgraded to the 80GB drive:

Player version: 30GB (Firmware: 1.62.02)
Installed drive: 80GB MK8025GAL
Connector: ZIF
Replaced with: 160GB MK1634GAL (82 from ebay)

Status: Worked fine, ZIF connector was a little tough to get in so care was needed. Drive formatted fine, but only shows as having 131GB free space. Uploading the firmware took about 30mins, the progress bar got all the way to the end and it then said it had failed; after a reboot though, everything was fine.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:31 PM
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Player version: 60 GB slim (Firmware: 1.21.02)
Installed drive: Seagate ST760211DE 60GB
Connector: Zif
Replaced with: 160GB Toshiba MK1634GAL 5mm ZIF (60 from ebay, sticker has Apple logo)
Status: Working well with one minor issue
Comments:
I dropped my Zen and a couple of days later it stuck in recovery mode with clicking hard drive (stopped clicking after a few days). Decided to take the opportunity to expand the size of hard drive during replacement. The whole process was very simple, sliding in the ribbon connector took a couple of attempts but apart from that totally straight forward. Drive format was quick but I had what appears to be a common scenario with the firmware upload: it took about 30mins, the progress bar got all the way to the end and claimed it had failed but on reboot all appeared to be fine. The player now works well apart from one thing - when switched off it takes longer to shut down than it used to - 1-2mins as opposed to a few seconds previously. I am guessing this may be down to the considerably increased size of HDD but I could be totally wrong. All in all an easy and satisfactory replacement.
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:29 AM
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Player version: 30 GB (Firmware: 1.62.02e)
Installed drive:
Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 Slim 30GB(HTC426030G5CE00)
Connector: Zif
Replaced with: 120GB Samsung Spinpoint N3A HS12YHA
(60 Dollars on ebay, sticker has Apple logo)
Status: Working perfect

After getting so much usefull info from this forum, i believed it was time i gave my minor contribution.

As i read somewhere else that the Creative Zen Vision M would only recognise up to 130gb, i just bought a 120gb hard drive.

Dismantling the Zen was fairly easy, although i damaged the upper and lower parts a bit with my screwdriver, but not too much. As soon as the screws are visible, simply unscrew them and then force-open the Zen at the top. It should come of pretty easy, just be carefull not to damage the Zif cable at the top and the battery connection cable at the bottom.

Unfold the two parts of the Zen and unplug the Zif connector from the motherboard. To unplug the Zif connector from the existing hard drive, you have to flip open the white bar. Then, the Zif slides out easily.

Next: I reused the blue upper rubber hard drive protection for the new drive and used ducktape (grey) to make a protection for the bottom of the new drive. The fitting of the Zif connector wasn't easy. I had to force push it in it's place. It will only fit in a couple of mm, but that is more than enough.

After all that, just close the Zen very carefully and power it up. It comes straight into the recovery mode. Format the drive first, then reboot your device. Plug it into your computer and run the software upgrade progam (this also works in Windows 7, just use Compatibility Mode 'Windows XP SP 3' and run as 'Administrator'). After 20-30 minutes, the upgrade finished. On the Zen it says: upgrade failed, but just ignore this. Reboot your Zen and you'll see that everything works perfectly. Eat this stupid Apple Fanboys!

After not using my Zen for almost 2 years (30gb wasn't enough anymore), I hope to be able to use my favourite little machine for a couple more years!
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Old 02-28-2012, 01:29 PM
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After five years, I think my Zen has finally broken. When I turn it on, there is a grating sound, so I think the drive is worn out and I need a new one.

I have used the unit almost every day for the past 5 years, taken it around on holidays and business, so it has probably traveled around 20K miles and more.

I bought a new replacement but I like the bulk and feel of the old one, so I'm going to replace the drive. Mine is a 60G, which is big enough but as the positing say it will take up to 120G, I might as well move up to that for the price difference being so little.

I have the 'thick' version of the unit, are the standard HDDs suitable for this, or do I have to be careful?

Pity nobody makes anything like this now, they are all so thin and flimsy.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:48 PM
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I did a search on Ebay for the 120GB drive & they really are reasonably priced. http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Spin...=&_mPrRngCbx=1
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
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I've noticed some people have suggested sanding down the pins on the cable. You should not do this.

ZIF stands for zero insertion force. There is a sliver of plastic, which is the lever for pivoting the teeth on the socket; move this gently and the cable should slide out easily. Then after replacing, smooth the clip down.
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