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Old 09-19-2010, 11:14 PM
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Pay the $15-$25 (or whatever it is) to get access to the developer phones, and then buy it. I can't check from here, as it's blocked in the country I'm currently residing, but I've heard it's limited to T-Mobile's 3G version, unfortunately.

The Nexus One is a great phone, and should have never been discontinued in the US. Yes, Verizon has an updated version (Incredible) which can be rooted to run N1 type ROMs if you don't want Sense. But the other big carriers do not have a true equivalent, and the worldwide HTC Desire doesn't support US 3G bands.

But if you do want a phone that's closest to it, check the Android subforum and the carrier threads. Off the top of my head, the best options for those who want that form factor are:

AT&T: Captivate
Sprint: None really (EVO is significantly larger, Epic is a slide out qwerty)
T-Mobile: Vibrant
Verizon: Incredible (updated version), Fascinate (Galaxy S, same as several above)
Exactly right. You can only buy it new now if you get the T-Mo AWS band version. This isn't exactly a downside though because you can then just buy some pay-as-you-go minutes on a SIM and bam you have a pre-paid phone.

Really, right now is a bad time to buy a brand new phone because there will be a few new additions in October or November that should beat current offerings. What you should do is wait for the G2 to be released and buy that bad boy. Buy it gently used and put a pre-paid SIM in her and call it good.

It's going to have the new Snapdragon with the 540 GPU and HSDPA+ radio. Some have even suggested Google will start calling that their new 'developer' phone.

Start saving now though because it's going to expensive on an allowance budget.

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Old 09-20-2010, 04:15 AM
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HSN: Hey! That's a phone? What are the dimensions? Can you post a real life pic with something for scale please? Sweet - looks like the size of my Zippo ligher - sorta...

Ah, never mind...found a youtube vid. Cool concept and design. A bit fat for me, but I like the qwerty k/b.

Ultimately though, no deal for me as it is Verizon...

Enjoy it!
Thanks, dfkt and lestatar. It is a nice phone, but I guess not very popular since both Nokia and Verizon have discontinued it. The Verizon agent drove all over the D/FW Metroplex in search for the darn thing.

I was able to get on a very affordable plan under my brother's plan, and it's all quite a departure from my recent TracFone days.

But, then again, I bought my first car this past Friday...and that was quite an experience, too!
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:34 AM
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Really, right now is a bad time to buy a brand new phone because there will be a few new additions in October or November that should beat current offerings. What you should do is wait for the G2 to be released and buy that bad boy. Buy it gently used and put a pre-paid SIM in her and call it good.

It's going to have the new Snapdragon with the 540 GPU and HSDPA+ radio. Some have even suggested Google will start calling that their new 'developer' phone.
The G2 uses an 800mhz 45nm Snapdragon, so it's a little slower than the Snapdragon in the Nexus One, but offers significantly better battery life. Also, no 540 GPU as it's using the Adreno 205. Bechmarks put it on par with the SGX530 found in current OMAP SOCs, although Qualcomm was trying to claim SGX535 level performance.

Still, solid SOC. Better battery life and GPU performance when compared to the current Snapdragon, only a little less CPU performance which will only be noticed in the most demanding of tasks.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:51 AM
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Cool My cell phone history

My 1st mobile phone was Ericsson T29, it's so nice.

and then some others of Panasonic, etc. I just cannot remember.
My 2nd last phone was Nokia 7360
Currently I'm using the Nokia C5, it is the first smartphone I have. I like it. It's smart and like a "phone".
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:30 AM
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I Am hoping to get this phone when it comes out, the Nokia C3-01

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Old 09-28-2010, 03:41 AM
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I Am hoping to get this phone when it comes out, the Nokia C3-01

What's the difference between C3-00 and C3-01?
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:45 PM
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What's the difference between C3-00 and C3-01?
well the C3 has a qwerty keyboard and no 3G, the C3-01 has a touch screen


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Old 10-03-2010, 05:47 PM
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Just picked this up today
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:19 PM
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Here's my cell phone. Nothing spectacular, but gets the job done. It's a Pantech Reveal:

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I have the Motorola Droid, love it other than the fact that it hasnt been running right lately due to my own stupid fault. (took it to the beach.....)
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:31 AM
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I finally got an Android phone, htc Desire.
Hi Fallstar, could you leave some words about audio quality out of Desire and maybe comare it to Fuze or Zen? Cheers
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:20 PM
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could you leave some words about audio quality out of Desire and maybe comare it to Fuze or Zen? Cheers
Well, I'm not an audiophile or pro, so I'll just say that the sound quality is quite good for a phone. I tested the music player while at work, so I only had my Zune's stock earbuds to use, but overall the SQ was comparable to my Zen, maybe not as good as Fuze or Zune. I need to look at the phone's manual to see if there is a way to make any adjustments within the player (EQ, etc).

Edit: Okay, big difference when I use my PX-100s...sound quality is MUCH better!

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I need to look at the phone's manual to see if there is a way to make any adjustments within the player (EQ, etc).
Check out Mixzing. They let you use a customizable EQ. It even works a little too!
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Could you suggest a GSM cell phone with a good speakerphone to listen music? Thanks.
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Meizu M8 (SE/FE) or M9, really loud speaker but yet good sound
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:32 AM
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Meizu M8 (SE/FE) or M9, really loud speaker but yet good sound
I saw that. I thought it was one of the cheap clones. I did not know it was legit.

But, this is a bit over my price range.

is there anything else cheaper?
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:31 PM
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The G2 uses an 800mhz 45nm Snapdragon, so it's a little slower than the Snapdragon in the Nexus One, but offers significantly better battery life. Also, no 540 GPU as it's using the Adreno 205. Bechmarks put it on par with the SGX530 found in current OMAP SOCs, although Qualcomm was trying to claim SGX535 level performance.

Still, solid SOC. Better battery life and GPU performance when compared to the current Snapdragon, only a little less CPU performance which will only be noticed in the most demanding of tasks.
Now that the G2 has finally been rooted it can be clocked back to bench speeds. At 1Ghz it outpaces the 8650 in the Nexus by about 20% on most benchmarks and 30-40% on 3D heavy ones (Like neocore). It's also a smaller die-fab process so it tolerates significantly more overclocking - the last I heard was about 1.42Ghz stable which is about double the performance of a stock 8650 on most benchmarks.

While it isn't the 540, the Adreno with proper drivers does just fine for itself, certainly much better than the OMAP 530 - probably on par with the 535. The original deficits in performance were due to really lazy drivers being pushed by HTC onto the device. By cooperating with Qualcomm they've finally built a driver that is optimized for the chipset and performs how they originally suggested it would.

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Now that the G2 has finally been rooted it can be clocked back to bench speeds. At 1Ghz it outpaces the 8650 in the Nexus by about 20% on most benchmarks and 30-40% on 3D heavy ones (Like neocore). It's also a smaller die-fab process so it tolerates significantly more overclocking - the last I heard was about 1.42Ghz stable which is about double the performance of a stock 8650 on most benchmarks.
If you're looking at Quadrant, I'd expect the overall benchmark to be higher on the G2. But, if you get the paid version and look at the per-item benchmarks, you'll see that at 1ghz, it performs about the same as the Nexus at 1ghz (for CPU). They're the same CPU (minus shrinkage).

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While it isn't the 540, the Adreno with proper drivers does just fine for itself, certainly much better than the OMAP 530 - probably on par with the 535. The original deficits in performance were due to really lazy drivers being pushed by HTC onto the device. By cooperating with Qualcomm they've finally built a driver that is optimized for the chipset and performs how they originally suggested it would.
I wouldn't blame HTC, as Qualcomm was notorious for having bad drivers for Adreno. It's a carry-over from the days when ATI ran the chipset, as they've never been stellar at drivers. But on paper, the 205 is at least as good as the 535. As drivers mature, we'll see this some more. The original quadrant scores someone posted awhile back showed the 205 edging out (barely) a 530.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:21 PM
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If you're looking at Quadrant, I'd expect the overall benchmark to be higher on the G2. But, if you get the paid version and look at the per-item benchmarks, you'll see that at 1ghz, it performs about the same as the Nexus at 1ghz (for CPU). They're the same CPU (minus shrinkage).
About the same is not about the same when people get wet over 10% difference. When you look at the two broken down it's about 7-10% more performance at the same clock speed in the CPU category and the other 10% percent gets made up elsewhere in the bench. I can't argue that they should perform equally, but in practice they don't. It isn't really a fair test because in order to be fair you'd have to isolate just the chipset and keep everything else the same - which can't be done by the consumer. So, what happens in practice is all that really matters, and in practice, the G2 beats the Nexus by 15-20% at similar clock speeds.

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I wouldn't blame HTC, as Qualcomm was notorious for having bad drivers for Adreno. It's a carry-over from the days when ATI ran the chipset, as they've never been stellar at drivers. But on paper, the 205 is at least as good as the 535. As drivers mature, we'll see this some more. The original quadrant scores someone posted awhile back showed the 205 edging out (barely) a 530.
You'll get nothing but agreement out of me there. Good thing the Adreno drivers are starting to look like something worthwhile. Even the 200 in my Nexus is pushing about 50% better performance than vanilla 2.2 with the modified kernel it runs.

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