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Old 01-12-2008, 12:47 PM
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Smile Reasons to like RockBox

I was going to title this "How do I love thee? Let me count the ways" but then I saw the admonishment "Please use descriptive thread titles!" and figured I had better play it straight.

First of all, Big Thanks to all who produce Rockbox and all those who produce our local custom builds. It's great to have a community producing stuff like this that we can all benefit from.

Second, I know that there are some who hesitate to put this on their sansa because they know there are risks and they may not be aware of the benefits. I hesitated and maybe I waited to long to move forward. Now that I have, I'm happy with the results and know that Rockbox will continue to get better. (That seems a *lot* less likely with the OF.)

To help anyone else who is considering this (and I do recommend it) I thought I'd list the benefits that I appreciate.

- Faster startup. Beyond that, it can build the database in the background whereas the OF takes several minutes every time I add a podcast. When Rockbox supports USB fully I will never need to wait for this again! (4:30 at present with the OF!)
- Supports more music formats. I use OGG and MP3
- Don't need to use special format for pictures. I use jpegs.
- M3U playlists. (Less important to me since I modified 'fapg' to support the OF playlist format, but m3u remains more widely
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- fast forward accelerates the longer I hold it. Very useful for podcasts or music DVD rips which may go over an hour in length.
- bookmarks. OF had one only and it frequently lost that.
- customizable screens. I can even download someone elses' theme and tweak it to meet my needs.
- support. I had to disassemble my e280 to get the serial number before Sandisk support would even talk to me. Feh! Ask a question here and get an answer.
- Rockbox remembers volume settings across a power cycle.
- Rockbox features additional audio settings like crossfeed which I use.
- stability - overall, Rockbox seems to be pretty good. I'm not sure it is any better or any worse than the OF. Early on I had some stability problems with the OF and I just learned to avoid doing things that would lock it up, like plugging it in too soon following power on.

This is not to say that there aren't other benefits and this is most certainly not a complete list. These are benefits that convince me that loading and using Rockbox was worth the effort.

I'm using Kugel's build on an e280 and my host OS is Ubuntu Linux. It probably does make a difference since none of the S/W that comes with the Sansa runs on Linux so I'm on my own.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:36 PM
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Great thread!
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Old 01-12-2008, 05:10 PM
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yep, I totally agree with all of that!
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:32 PM
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- Rockbox lets you read .txt files, which you can use as an e-book reader, or better, import all your phone contacts into one file and you always have them with you if you forget your cellphone.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:17 AM
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and it has a built in txt editor, i use it all the time to take notes and edit themes. It's also always under development, so new stuff can be added all the time.

Rockbox is also extremely powerful if you think about it- you could create a whole theme from scratch:

use rock paint to make all the images, and then the txt editor to do the codeing!
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:32 AM
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and it has a built in txt editor, i use it all the time to take notes and edit themes. It's also always under development, so new stuff can be added all the time.

Rockbox is also extremely powerful if you think about it- you could create a whole theme from scratch:

use rock paint to make all the images, and then the txt editor to do the codeing!
It would take an awful long time though
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:14 PM
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no, not really I almost did it but then realized I couldn't code so I deleted all the images.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:25 PM
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When making my themes for RB I edited my themes right on the player with no problems.
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how do you get rock box?



I am new at this whole thing a got a sansa e250 for christmas and have no clue how to put on a new theme someone please help me
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:37 PM
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If you download the .zip and have a .rockbox folder, extract it to the main sansa directory.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:46 PM
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WTF is with the giant Letters?

Nice Post, it would attract my attention to rockbox if I just got a sansa(or other player).

EDIT: guess the moderator edited the posts
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Cut the formatting crap
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:36 AM
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Another reason to like Rockbox:

It reads/writes MicroSDHC cards of larger capacity than the OF's 2-GB limit. My e270 now carries 10 GBytes of tunes. That translates into about 120 CDs worth (I've got all kinds of symphonic music, long-form free jazz, prog epics, etc.).
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:41 PM
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- Faster startup. Beyond that, it can build the database in the background whereas the OF takes several minutes every time I add a podcast. When Rockbox supports USB fully I will never need to wait for this again! (4:30 at present with the OF!)
This is one area I'm thankful for that I didn't even consider a bonus until I installed Rockbox. With the MicroSD card my Sansa used to take forever to start, the turning-on time difference with Rockbox is amazing.

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- Supports more music formats. I use OGG and MP3
I never paid attention to OGG since Sansa previously didn't support it, but I'd like to check into it now, possibly an alternate to WMA
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:51 AM
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Faster startup time and MicroSDHC support are the biggies for me, but also:

- Lower minimum volume. I work in a very quiet office environment so only need to have my Sansa on a very low setting, but the minimum possible on the OF still had me worrying that I was damaging my ears. Rockbox has finer control and a much lower minimum level.
- Better video support. OK so FF/RW has only just arrived, but the OF uses the stupidest codec ever devised, that somehow manages to make transcoded files bigger even though the framerate and dimensions are reduced.
- Continued development. It's inevitable that Sandisk will slow/stop work on e200 firmware as it releases new models (save perhaps for the odd bug fix). But Rockbox will continue to develop and improve because it's not tied to one target or to any business concern.

In short, thanks to the Rockbox team. You do indeed rock.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:06 AM
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- It's got a awesome movie player built right in
- It actually lets you play games on your sansa, how cool is that!
- Bubbles the game, I have gotten to level 99 twice
- Jewels the game is pretty sweet too
- I love changing the pitches in the middle of my sisters favorite songs
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stable?
My rockbox freezes at least twice every session I use it.
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Cqqx2, what build are you using? How old of build is it?
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Cqqx2, what build are you using? How old of build is it?
I'm using Cpchan's build from around novemeber '07
It freezes so much I wish the 20 second shutdown was 5 seconds
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You might want to try a newer build and see if that is causing the freezing.
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