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Old 02-21-2007, 12:48 PM
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To create a sticky explaining Id3 tags in full. The different ways to change them, wmp, properties, mediamonkey, and all that jazz. It would be appreciated, as Its something that comes up an awful lot.


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Old 02-24-2007, 06:58 AM
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Enigmatic, I look forward to reading your post, as you know there are volumes of information on ID3 tags, and creating a how to would be a very lengthy task. However, a basic explanation is what I’ve attempted. Maybe others can add to or correct my understanding.

ID3 is metadata that allows information such as the title, artist, album, track number, or other information about the file to be stored in the file itself (i.e. within the mp3 or embedded within the mp3 file).

ID3v1 - I believe the ID3v1 tag occupies 128 bytes, but it’s best to remove these as they tend to cause problems with the Sansa (ghost files, corrupted files & data, etc…).

ID3v2 tags are of variable size, and usually occur at the start of the file. In the latest ID3v2 standard there are 84 types of frame types. There are standard frames for containing cover art, copyright/license, lyrics, arbitrary text and URL data, as well as other things (there are three versions of ID3v2).

Editing ID3 tags - ID3 tags may be edited in a variety of ways, and to try to explain would be defeating the purpose of help files. On some platforms the file's properties may be edited by viewing extended information in the file manager. Some audio players allow editing single or groups of files. Additionally there are specialized applications, called taggers, which can batch tag, embed album art, etc.

I use both Mp3tag and MediaMokey, the best way to learn these apps is by reading the help files yourself and posting specific questions. Both of these apps are free downloads, and an upgraded version of MediaMonkey (Gold) is actually sold, but the basic version works great! Give them a try, I’m sure you’ll be satisfied.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:04 AM
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This might help for the technical background, but not for the Sansa specifically:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id3
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=ID3
http://www.id3.org/ID3v2Easy
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Old 02-24-2007, 11:09 AM
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I use winamp and i always used winamp!!! (to edit id3tags!!!)
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:56 AM
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You can try "easytag" on linux, I find it pretty usefull.
But I don't know yet whether the ID3 tags it produces are fine for the sansa or not.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:30 PM
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All the music on my MP3 player is either ripped from Cd's and tapes or from downloaded live music.

After I convert to 128 MP3, I use ID3-TagIT to edit the MP3 tags.
I usually number the songs in the file name if I want to keep them in order.
Then call up the converted folder in ID3-TagIT and use the shift key and left mouse click on the first and last song this selects all songs.
Next I type or copy the the artist and the album names in the proper places, then select ok and hit the save icon.
This is enough information for me to organize the music on my player.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default easy tag (well for me at least)

here's a link to a tag prog i use...
you edit it through the 'properties' with a right click on the song...
it also does bulk if you choose more than one..
some of the other progs seemed a bit long winded for my 'expertise'
but this is basic and functional...
here's the link
http://www.download3k.com/Install-AudioShell.html
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:45 AM
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Yeah.........Thanks guys!
This whole unknown song thing was driving me crazy. I removed the ID3v1 tags and reformatted and now they`re where they`re supposed to be. Thought I had all my tags dialed in, didn`t know about the ID3v1 thing........still so much to learn.

I use foobar http://www.foobar2000.org/

simple import file or directory (folder), select one or all and right click to "tagging"-"MP3 tag types"-uncheck ID3v1- and update away........supports batch converting.

Thanks again for all your help!
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A staggering amount of information can be embedded within MP3 files if you use ID3v2, which does not suffer from ID3v1's limitation of 31 characters per text field. Quite a bit of junk found within the various MP3 files I've found though comes straight from the program doing the ripping, whether it be iTunes or Windows Media Player; the worst offenders. This stuff found in most MP3 tags is junk, if the ripper in fact creates an ID3 tag, and to me really isn't relevant. For me, even album art is junk, though I know full well that most people enjoy seeing the album art when a song plays.

The absolute minimum for ID3 tags is what's displayed when using MP3Tag:
  • Album
  • Artist
  • Genre
  • Title
  • Track
  • Year
I delete all the other crud that is often thrown into the tags, and given some of the tags I've seen using MP3Tag, quite extensive. Windows Media Player and iTunes are the worst offenders when it comes to a truly "clean" ID3 tag. RealPlayer and WinAmp are kind to MP3's and don't try rewriting the tags just because they can. Of course, MP3Tag can wipe out all the crud, which is why I use it.
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Do any of these have the ability to rename the file according to their ID3 name
ie,
"Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - All-Time Greatest Hits.mp3"
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Do any of these have the ability to rename the file according to their ID3 name
ie,
"Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World - All-Time Greatest Hits.mp3"
You can name each field anything you wish and embed any picture to the file, give it a try it's free.
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MP3Tag can copy the tag data as file names.
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thanks advcomp, thats the answer i was looking for.
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I use mp3Tag Pro to work with music files, to edit tags and organize my collection
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+1...mp3Tag is my tagger of choice for years...a snap to rename files according to your tags and vice versa if you wish...

EDIT: Ooops, kinda old thread <must check dates>...sorry
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I use MusicBrainz to edit mine. Currently volunteering on there for 2 months and it's nice because if they don't have it, you can add it. No need to wait for the MetaData company (gracenote...etc) and stuff on WMP to add it.
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I've noticed the mood tags I've been creating via "media monkey" haven't been actually transferring over to the ID3v2 tags on the songs themselves... What gives? If I deleted/uninstalled media monkey and reinstalled would those tags still exist?
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