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Old 01-17-2014, 05:46 PM
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If the file system is too broken or there's been a hardware failure that prevents it from being recognized there's no way to fix that I know. The file system issues I had were bad but the player was still recognized by Windows. That meant I could still use the error checking facility when I viewed it as a disk in the Properties>Tools menu. That's not possible until it gets recognized a disk.
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:00 PM
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If the file system is too broken or there's been a hardware failure that prevents it from being recognized there's no way to fix that I know. The file system issues I had were bad but the player was still recognized by Windows. That meant I could still use the error checking facility when I viewed it as a disk in the Properties>Tools menu. That's not possible until it gets recognized a disk.

I get this error.


And when I try to format it, Windows gets at least 90% done before giving me the "Windows was unable to complete the format." error.

And if it helps, the formatting screen lists the 4GB Clip Zip as a 30.MB FAT device

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http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=34186.0
Guy had the same exact problem as me. The 30MB partition on my Clip is the RAM, which explains why there's no file system on it.

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Old 01-17-2014, 06:37 PM
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That makes my guess that there's been a hardware failure. It's been reported here and on the Rockbox forums that a Clip of some type fails to connect properly and then presents as a 30 MB drive. To the best of my knowledge no one has reported any of those recovering on their own.
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:56 PM
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Yeah, it's most likely a FAT corruption. Makes sense since I did suddenly take it out while it was charging.

>http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-C...le/td-p/291234
Found that pretty interesting though. Guy had the same problem as me, but was able to recover it in a different OS. Don't have another HDD handy though.

>http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-C...st/td-p/106932
Tried this too, but CHKDSK made it really apparent that the 30MB was just RAW RAM.

Anyways, thanks for your help everyone.
Now to find out what I'm gonna do with this paperweight.

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http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2...-sansa-clip-c/
Dang. I think this is the solution that would've cured my Zip. Too bad I don't have a mac to try it.
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Old 01-17-2014, 07:58 PM
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There's a way to boot to Linux if you have a USB drive and your BIOS allows booting from it. The simplest way I can think of is to use UNetbootin. I have a 8 GB drive that I use to boot both Ubuntu and Linux Mint. It can be very handy to deal with disk problems that can't be dealt with easily in Windows like file paths that are too long or have illegal characters.

The other post you linked to isn't about a disk gone bad. It's a firmware issue due the sandisk firmware needing working room to refresh the database. It's scary but fixed relatively easily. The "Not enough space for Music DB, please free xx mb" message indicates the disk is too full or has file problems but can still be recognized by the OS. How to deal with it is part of the sansa knowledge base.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:47 PM
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Oh

Well thanks for explaining that to me bro. Guess I'm gonna have to let my Sansa go.
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Well thanks for explaining that to me bro. Guess I'm gonna have to let my Sansa go.
have you tried with admin tools? I had a problem like that with another mp3 player (brand name for which we dont speak of). I dont remember what I did I clicked the update, check for hardware changes, driver update, uninstall, all those options. Then i refresh it with the HOLD button option. Dunno if this was posted already (if so just ignore) http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/de...y-the-computer
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have you tried with admin tools? I had a problem like that with another mp3 player (brand name for which we dont speak of). I dont remember what I did I clicked the update, check for hardware changes, driver update, uninstall, all those options. Then i refresh it with the HOLD button option. Dunno if this was posted already (if so just ignore) http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/de...y-the-computer
There are no tools you can use with a clip specifically.

FWIW, if you get the 30MB RAM disk, it means the storage didn't power up during boot. Nothing you do will have any effect on the player because as soon as you cut the power it'll all be erased. I don't think there is any known way to recover from that on the Clip Zip.
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