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Old 11-20-2007, 08:48 AM
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I need some cheap PC speakers. I have my MylarOne X3's for listening to music when others are around (I'm in college with 5 person dorms). But I need some small speakers when watching movies etc., preferably a 2.0 set. I've been looking at the new and nice-designed Logitech S150 that have no 230V chord but get power from USB instead. VERY convenient for my use of them.
Are their sound decent, or will I be better of with some others?
Max. budget is around 20. The S150's go for ~8 in Denmark.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:13 PM
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It is very hard to find decent speakers at this price point. I took a look at the specs and I don't recommend them:
  • Very quiet- Total RMS power: 1.2 watts RMS (0.6 watts per satellite)
  • Frequency response is not good: 90 Hz–20 kHz

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Old 11-20-2007, 12:49 PM
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USB-powered speakers are nice in that they're convenient, but because they have so little power available to them (up to 500mA), they're not going to get much louder than a good set of laptop speakers. I'm not knocking them, because although they won't be much louder than a decent set of inbuilt laptop speakers, they will certainly sound better; but if you want something you can hear clearly from across a room, you're going to need a set that can run off mains power.

For their price, you really can't go wrong with Logitech. They're hardly audiophile-quality, but you can very easily do much, much worse, and end up paying more for it.
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Thanks to both of you. Cpchan: Will the RMS tell about total sound output? The main problem about my built-in speakers in the laptop is that they 1) can't play at an even okay level of volume and 2) there's absolutely NO bass/deep freqs at all.
I tried a pair of Logitech S120 - must be the preceeder of S150 I guess - and they were actually okay.

I guess I'll go for some Logitechs then.
Is it just me, or are reviews of (non hi-fi) PC speakers impossible to find?
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Thanks to both of you. Cpchan: Will the RMS tell about total sound output?
Yes.

Short definition: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/R/RMS.html

Longer article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_power

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I tried a pair of Logitech S120 - must be the preceeder of S150 I guess - and they were actually okay.
I took a look at the the spec of the S150 and it is actually slightly louder (1.5 Watt). The frequency response is also slightly better (50Hz - 20 kHz),

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Old 11-21-2007, 02:32 AM
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These:

http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Lis...8581&x=24&y=11

Seem to have a way higher RMS, namely 4 Watt.

Here's a list of Logitech 2.0 sets (and some 2.1 sneaks in as well), which one should I prefer? The Z10's are probably very nice, but the price is high as well. And I'm going to buy some kick-ass speakers in 1-2 years time, until then I just need some basic ones.

http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Lis...8581&x=24&y=11
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Here's a list of Logitech 2.0 sets (and some 2.1 sneaks in as well), which one should I prefer? The Z10's are probably very nice, but the price is high as well. And I'm going to buy some kick-ass speakers in 1-2 years time, until then I just need some basic ones.
I would actually suggest a 2.1 system. Satellites of PC speaker systems are incapable of producing deep-bass frequencies because of their size. This is where the subwoofer kicks in (deep-bass frequency sounds are non-directional to the human ear). Do you really need USB connectivity? If not, how about these:

http://www.alteclansing.com/index.ph...iproduct_id=31

Listed price is 40 quids ($49.95 in the US), but you should be able to get it for slightly higher than your original max price some where online:
  • TOTAL CONTINUOUS POWER: 28 Watts RMS
  • SYSTEM RESPONSE: 35 Hz - 20 kHz (-10 dB)
  • SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO @ 1 KHZ

You will be glad having a subwoofer when watching movies.

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Old 11-21-2007, 07:54 AM
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I would actually suggest a 2.1 system. Satellites of PC speaker systems are incapable of producing deep-bass frequencies because of their size. This is where the subwoofer kicks in (deep-bass frequency sounds are non-directional to the human ear). Do you really need USB connectivity? If not, how about these:

http://www.alteclansing.com/index.ph...iproduct_id=31

Listed price is 40 quids ($49.95 in the US), but you should be able to get it for slightly higher than your original max price some where online:
  • TOTAL CONTINUOUS POWER: 28 Watts RMS
  • SYSTEM RESPONSE: 35 Hz - 20 kHz (-10 dB)
  • SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO @ 1 KHZ
You will be glad having a subwoofer when watching movies.

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Okay cool, but I simply don't have the space for a subwoofer. USB-connectivity is not that important. The 2.0 version of the Altec Lansings go for around 11-12 in Denmark.
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Okay cool, but I simply don't have the space for a subwoofer. USB-connectivity is not that important. The 2.0 version of the Altec Lansings go for around 11-12 in Denmark.
So go for the VS2320 then. It is the same thing, but without the subwoofer. The system response will be less, but it is still a lot better and louder than the Logitechs you asked about.

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So go for the VS2320 then. It is the same thing, but without the subwoofer. The system response will be less, but it is still a lot better and louder than the Logitechs you asked about.

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I don't want to cause too much trouble now, but the Altec Lansings in 2.0 look like this:
5 Watt (? Watt) / 85 - 18000 Hz

And, for instance, the cheapest Logitech model - S120, that go for less than half the price - look like this:
2.3 Watt (? Watt) / 50 - 20000 Hz

But is the response area not that important?
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I don't want to cause too much trouble now, but the Altec Lansings in 2.0 look like this:
5 Watt (? Watt) / 85 - 18000 Hz
http://reviews.cnet.com/pc-speakers/...html?tag=specs

You got the TOTAL CONTINUOUS POWER right but the system responsive is actually 20 - 20 kHz. It uses some type of Bass-enhancement technology in order to do this:

http://www.alteclansing.com/index.ph...iproduct_id=23

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Okay thanks a lot...

I just saw the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook sound card, will it improve anything for me? Unless I have nice speakers, I mean.
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I just saw the Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook sound card, will it improve anything for me? Unless I have nice speakers, I mean.
Yes, it will improve things, but not much with the build in speakers- the weakest link is usually the speakers. If you really do want to buy a new sound card, I suggest getting a M-Audio card instead.

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Okay I changed my mind a bit; I'll go for a nice 2.1 set instead. I realised that the subwoofer will be a great advantage.

Are Logitech sets the best ones? Like X230, X240, Z3e, or R20. Are these good?
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IMO, Logitech speakers are good for the price.
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Okay I changed my mind a bit; I'll go for a nice 2.1 set instead. I realised that the subwoofer will be a great advantage.

Are Logitech sets the best ones? Like X230, X240, Z3e, or R20. Are these good?
Logitech speakers are OK for the price. However, for Low-med end computer speakers, I prefer Altec Lansing.
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Yes, it will improve things, but not much with the build in speakers- the weakest link is usually the speakers. If you really do want to buy a new sound card, I suggest getting a M-Audio card instead.

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