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That same article also says
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In mid-2011, Kallman invested with Young and helped assemble a Pono team that included representatives from audio giants Meridian and Dolby, according to insiders. Once WMG signed on, Kallman said that he and Young approached UMG CEO Lucian Grainge and Sony Music CEO Doug Morris about remastering their catalogs for Pono distribution. Neither UMG nor Sony officially acknowledged those conversations.
which is what leaves me uncertain as to which process is actually being done. An announcement that states clearly what process is used to create the files wouldn't seem to be that hard to find. The lack of any details is what makes me suspicious.

I tend to suspect it's just upconverting. If they are actually remastering thousands of albums, that's the type of thing I would be making sure was at the front of my ad campaign. The buzz generated from that would almost certainly assure the success of the project.
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Sorry skamp, I don't want any pop-up surprises with my Toblerone. Now, if it makes YOU happy,...
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http://evolver.fm/2013/08/13/neil-yo...sound-quality/.
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“better than lossless”

Huh?

"regular old 16-bit/44.1 kHz — a.k.a. CD-quality"

never felt SACD, DVD-A, et al. offered anything above and beyond CDs other than a chance to charge people more, again, for the same material they'd already probably bought once (on CD), twice (LP), or more.

There might be some advantage if they could bypass the "mastering" to a dynamic range of near zero that's being done these days.
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From one of the comments posted in that linked thread: http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

I'll finish reading it later,...
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/469...re-2014-launch:
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I really do hope this does not mean that what is going to be added to the files are records’ pops and clicks.
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I really do hope this does not mean that what is going to be added to the files are records’ pops and clicks.
Naw, they'll just run everything through a low pass filter and auto-transcode it into WAV...
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In other words: low quality files will be upconverted to high rez files which provide no improvement in sq. All it will do is increase the files size,...what a stupid waste.
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With all the talk of the Pono format, would a viable alternative be FLAC at 96kHz/24bit?
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With all the talk of the Pono format, would a viable alternative be FLAC at 96kHz/24bit?
No. Viable alternatives are formats such as MP3, Vorbis, AAC, and ordinary FLAC. There is no evidence that “upgrading” to so-called high-resolution formats leads to an improvement in sound quality. Please see, for example

http://theaudiocritic.com/plog/index...eId=4&blogId=1,
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Compact Disc - Digital Audio (CD-DA, audio CDs) is still the best source for music. [citation needed]
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No. Viable alternatives are formats such as MP3, Vorbis, AAC, and ordinary FLAC. There is no evidence that “upgrading” to so-called high-resolution formats leads to an improvement in sound quality. Please see, for example

http://theaudiocritic.com/plog/index...eId=4&blogId=1,
http://drewdaniels.com/audible.pdf,
http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html.
The bottom article reminds me of this YouTube video that I happened to come across:

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That's one of the two videos that are hopefully part of a series of what's real as far as digital media. I've found them to be a good starting point if you're interested in being able to determine for yourself if what's being said about hi-res audio has any validity. That way you won't have to depend on the word of someone who has something to sell if buying their device and music makes any sense for your needs.
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A lot of times these "high-res" files are just upsampled CD's anyway. Also, 24-bits doesn't ensure the sound quality or mastering is going to be any better either.

I got a 24/176 copy of Let It Bleed off of HDTracks. I also have the original 1969 vinyl record and the original 1986 Abkco CD. The 24/176 does sound closer to analog (it seems to flow more smoothly when listening to it, hard to explain it), but I don't think it's that noticeable of a difference over the CD to justify the cost.

This is merely my opinion, your mileage may vary.

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It seems like a good remixing and remastering of the original album, using the original audio source, would be a more effective way to improve the sound quality of an album.
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Maybe it will convert everything to DSD.
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