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Old 07-09-2013, 03:14 PM
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Default Phone good for listening to music on speakers for hours and hours

I work on the railroad cleaning train cars. I used to be at a yard where I could get away with using my Sansa Clip Zip with headphones while working, but I transfered and cannot get away with it any more. But I can listen to podcasts/music with a portable device that utilizes speakers.

What is a phone that:
-- lasts 6+ hours when listening to music on the speakers
-- has fairly loud speakers to hear over the heating/air conditioning system of a train?

Or is there a dedicated mp3 player with built in speakers that are loud enough?

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Old 07-09-2013, 04:05 PM
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Can't go passed the HTC One mate. Beats audio means you can turn the volume up without distortion, in conjunction with the internal amp, boom sound and front facing speakers, you have the perfect phone for your needs. I have one and the audio coming from the speakers is insane. So loud.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:02 PM
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My brother has an HTC, not sure what model though. I will try to use his first of course.

The problem with the HTC One for me: it is new. I would rather snatch up a used phone for much less money, since I am planning on keeping my dumb phone for actual calls(I hate pocket bulk). I just want a smartphone because far as I know there is no good dedicated mp3 player with built in speakers.

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Old 07-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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Can't go passed the HTC One mate. Beats audio means you can turn the volume up without distortion, in conjunction with the internal amp, boom sound and front facing speakers, you have the perfect phone for your needs. I have one and the audio coming from the speakers is insane. So loud.
That does sound like a good option speaker-phone-wise, but will the battery last through 6+ hours of loud music playback? (if not, I suppose an external battery pack could get it there.)

Another thought, NicholasV, would be to use your Clip Zip with a small portable speaker of the Jambox variety (not the Jambox itself, though, as its relatively poor sound quality, low volume levels, and proneness to distortion put it behind similarly priced competitors). I'd personally recommend the JBL Charge, which shines especially at higher volumes and sports a 12+ hour battery...but there are plenty of options to choose from. Is a setup like that permissible at your work?
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:39 PM
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Are these powered speakers?
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Are these powered speakers?
The type I've mentioned, you mean? Yes, they're powered by a built-in, rechargeable Li-ion battery.

Besides a used smartphone, NicholasV, another other thought would be to look into a tablet; I don't know a whole lot about their general battery life with music playback, but some of them are pretty affordable, and most - if not all - of them have built-in speakers.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:17 PM
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The JBL Charge/Jambox are pretty damn big! I will have to clean like 6-8 train cars per day, so I would keep having to move that big clunky setup of the mp3 + speakers from car to car. In addition to the cleaning supplies I already have to move and the garbage. In other words that solution is too onerous and bulky. It seems like a horrible solution compared to a smartphone.
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The JBL Charge/Jambox are pretty damn big! I will have to clean like 6-8 train cars per day, so I would keep having to move that big clunky setup of the mp3 + speakers from car to car. In addition to the cleaning supplies I already have to move and the garbage. In other words that solution is too onerous and bulky. It seems like a horrible solution compared to a smartphone.
I see. I don't typically think of a tallboy beer can as "damn big" and "clunky", but I guess I get your point. The unfortunate price you'll pay for the ultimate portability of a cell phone is that its speaker will likely distort heavily at high volumes and never come close to actually sounding "good" (with the exception of the HTC One, I've always gotten the impression that phone speakers are built primarily for voice transmission and considered mostly as an afterthought)...but I think we just have different priorities when it comes to portable music. I shall leave this topic to the speakerphone aficionados...
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Well a train car can be 85 feet long. And like I said it won't be the only thing I have to haul like cleaning supplies and all the garbage. So using a boombox like solution is not good, it adds bulk, weight, setup time, it will either be too loud when I am close or too dim when I am at the other end of the train car, etc.

Regarding tablets:
I have a smaller tablet, an original Kindle Fire 7". It can fit in my pocket, but it is very uncomfortable and I wouldn't want to do all the bending and moving on the train with one.

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Well a train car can be 85 feet long. And like I said it won't be the only thing I have to haul like cleaning supplies and all the garbage. So using a boombox like solution is not good, it adds bulk, weight, setup time, it will either be too old when I am close or too dim when I am at the other end of the train car, etc.
Got it.

Although discontinued, you can snag a used or refurbished Galaxy Player 4.2 from Amazon for $110+. It features a pair of front-facing speakers and generous battery life (up to 60 hours of audio playback in a best-case, new device scenario, according to the Samsung spec sheet), so I imagine even an older battery would get you through your shifts without issue.

Likewise, the (also discontinued) previous-gen Galaxy Player 4.0 can be found for $100 refurbished (or $155 used). That one has a pair of speakers on the back and less battery life (it's rated for 36 hours of audio playback when new), it's slightly heavier (4.27 ounces vs 4 ounces), and its screen is slightly smaller despite the two devices sharing the same overall form factor.
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I guess you need something like this. I don't know how good this is.

http://www.amazon.com/RoadNoise-Blac...s=SPEAKER+VEST

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Old 07-09-2013, 08:59 PM
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@JK98:
That is an intriguing solution.

Unfortunately as it is I have to wear a yellow Class 3 reflective vest. Now maybe I can get it in yellow and use it instead, but vests get very dirty on the railroad and it will need to be washed and even then thrown out after a year or two. A white vest like that will look dookie brown after a week or two. Also I like to take the vest off when I am actually on the train, so I can cool down better.

I would rather have an in pocket solution for all the reasons stated above.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:01 PM
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How about this?


http://www.bicyclehero.com/us/bicycl...-speakers.html
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:05 PM
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Get a Sansa clip+ or clipzip. Use a small interconnect to use this with your speaker. 3.5mm to 3.5mm. Very compact, easy to carry, clip or velcro the player to the top of the speaker.

I work for NYCT,...where do you work?
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Get a Sansa clip+ or clipzip. Use a small interconnect to use this with your speaker. 3.5mm to 3.5mm. Very compact, easy to carry, clip or velcro the player to the top of the speaker.
TDS, NicholasV already has a Clip Zip...but lacks a speaker. Do you have a super-compact one (such that it and the Zip stuck together would be smaller than a smartphone), with 6+ hours of battery life, in mind?

NicholasV, do the Samsung Galaxy Players not appeal to you for some reason? Based on what you've written, they seem to hit all of your main points (cheap, pocketable, with good battery life and built-in speakers designed for music playback).
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How about a cap with built in speakers?
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The speakers on a Samsung Galaxy player are too small to provide the volume necessary to be heard in a train while cleaning it. The only phone somewhat loud enough would be the HTC One,...that's about it.

I'd suggest a Google search for a small self powered speaker,...since I'm not gonna do all the legwork. The best member is an educated member.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:22 AM
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how about something like this? and clip it to your belt

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HMDX+-+P...&skuId=3810286
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how about something like this? and clip it to your belt

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HMDX+-+P...&skuId=3810286
With the very small size of that, I'm guessing that it sounds very tinny. I might be wrong though. I guess it is worth trying though.

it looks like there are two models of this, one using 3 AAA batteries, and one use 2AA batteries. The 2AA battery model would provide much more run time, or much greater maximum volume.

http://www.amazon.com/Homedics-HX-GO...rds=HXGO33A9OS


http://www.amazon.com/HMDX-Audio-HX-.../ref=pd_cp_e_0


This seems to be much more popular though.

http://www.amazon.com/iLuv-SmashBox-...ref=pd_sim_e_2


This looks like it is much sturdier and probably plays much louder than the cheaper options.

http://www.amazon.com/Grace-Digital-...n+Speaker+Case

Another option.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SRF-18-Po...rds=Sony+radio

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Old 07-14-2013, 03:51 PM
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Did you come to any kind of decision on this, NicholasV? The people here have dug up more options than I would have thought possible given your specialized criteria. I'd be curious to find out what you select and whether it ultimately ends up meeting your needs.
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