Flu shot

[bascom]

Been reading a lot to decide if I should get the flu shot. So far I'm against it.

Why I Never Get Flu Shots or Snorts By Chet Day
http://chetday.com/noflushots.htm

Latest on the Flu Shot Scam
http://www.pacifichealthcenter.com/b...e-in-flu-shots


'Preservative-free' vaccines and flu shots still contain deadly toxins
http://www.naturalnews.com/038420_fl...ervatives.html


Flu vaccine FAQ: Mercury and flu vaccines
http://news.consumerreports.org/heal...himerosal.html

Thimerosal Content in Some US Licensed Vaccines
the information in the table was updated May 2, 2012
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

General Questions and Answers on Thimerosal
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccinati...merosal_qa.htm

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[The DarkSide]

Whenever I don't get the shot I get the flu,...and I'm constantly with the mainstream public. I got it, and so did my family. We'll take our chances,...it's worth it to us.

My wife skipped it last year, got sick, and I went through hell with her. I was going to take her in to be admitted to the hospital.

You do what you deem best, I do what I do to be alive.

[Marvin the Martian]

Originally Posted by The DarkSide

Whenever I don't get the shot I get the flu,...and I'm constantly with the mainstream public. I got it, and so did my family. We'll take our chances,...it's worth it to us.

My wife skipped it last year, got sick, and I went through hell with her. I was going to take her in to be admitted to the hospital.

You do what you deem best, I do what I do to be alive.

Is that what you've got now?

[The DarkSide]

Originally Posted by Marvin the Martian

Is that what you've got now?

Maybe,...but the severity of it is greatly lessened. I've had a slight fever, sore throat, and runny/congested sinuses. And, it's now going away. I'd most likely have been floored for most of the week. This is annoying, but tolerable. My wife had no symptoms, and my 8yo had sniffles & a slight sore throat like me. He's better, and I'm almost there as well. A few days of more cold like sickness is fine. No 104F+ fever for me for the last few years of getting the shot. It could be deadly for me,...and my wife.

[saratoga]

Originally Posted by bascom

'Preservative-free' vaccines and flu shots still contain deadly toxins
http://www.naturalnews.com/038420_fl...ervatives.html

That page is so fucking stupid it hurts my brain. I think I'd rather read about oxygen free audio cables.

[saratoga]

I should stop reading this but holy shit:

Let's take the food toxin metaphor, as an example of what is going on in the "preservative-free" vaccine world.

Consider this: would you eat a meal if you knew it contained 10 toxins, but the cook said they left out the one you are allergic to?

Yes, that would be awful if you ate meal containing yeast protein (bread), glutamate (meat), or various salts. Personally I just inject laboratory-grade glucose into my food port (mouth). Its the only way to be sure i'm not ingesting "toxins", which is what I call things I don't know anything about.

What motivates someone to type up pages and pages of nonsense without also motivating them to use wikipedia and look up things? I get the feeling that if you gave that guy the mineral report for his tap water or pointed out that theres a couple nanograms of yeast in every breath he inhales his brain would explode.

[musichound]

The flu shot is abdolutely necessary for some indivisuals, especially for people taking medicine to purposely lower their immune system. I think that blog is bull crap.

[Lagoo56]

I haven't had a flu shot in years nor do I need one. Each time my mother ever get one she ended up with a bad flu so she hasn't gotten one either lol

[Syndrome]

No flu shots here, haven't had one for nearly 20 years. I get sick sometimes, but i get over them pretty quickly too. Haven't been to bad in the last few years.

[musichound]

In general, the people who need to take flu shots are the very young, elderly, and people who are taking medicine to reduce their imune system because of RHA. As for me, I never had a fu shot and so far I've been very lucky.

[The DarkSide]

I take the shot because I work directly with the public at times. I travel in packed trains, with tons of sick school kids, and I work in more impoverished areas of the city. I also have a crappier immune system after having cancer (but I never had chemo btw). I don't/can't take chances,...

[bascom]

Originally Posted by saratoga

I should stop reading this but holy shit:

Yes, that would be awful if you ate meal containing yeast protein (bread), glutamate (meat), or various salts. Personally I just inject laboratory-grade glucose into my food port (mouth). Its the only way to be sure i'm not ingesting "toxins", which is what I call things I don't know anything about.

What motivates someone to type up pages and pages of nonsense without also motivating them to use wikipedia and look up things? I get the feeling that if you gave that guy the mineral report for his tap water or pointed out that theres a couple nanograms of yeast in every breath he inhales his brain would explode.

I don't follow your analogy. Yeast protein (bread), glutamate (meat), and various salts aren't toxins. He wouldn't be concerned about them. He cited 8 sources for his article. What in wikipedia would discredit or not support his claims?

Seems like there is an endless supply of links in the news about this. Two more:

Vaccination & Vaccine Safety
http://www.flu.gov/prevention-vaccin...on/index.html#

The Easiest, Cheapest Way to Stay Healthy
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayi...y-stay-healthy

"Frequent hand washing with soap and water can save you money—and misery—by helping you avoid medical bills, missed workdays, or having to stay home with a sick child. And you’ll also protect your friends and family: A CDC survey found that 40 million Americans a year fall prey to illnesses spread by hands, which can harbor up to 500,000 bacteria per square centimeter"

[saratoga]

Originally Posted by bascom

I don't follow your analogy. Yeast protein (bread), glutamate (meat), and various salts aren't toxins. He wouldn't be concerned about them.

Its not my analogy, thats from the link you posted. That guy claims those are toxins that one should avoid consuming when in reality they're common substances that are generally safe to eat.

Originally Posted by bascom

What in wikipedia would discredit or not support his claims?

Well for instance looking up what some of those so called 'toxins' are might have set him straight.

Originally Posted by bascom

Seems like there is an endless supply of links in the news about this. Two more:

Vaccination & Vaccine Safety
http://www.flu.gov/prevention-vaccin...on/index.html#

The Easiest, Cheapest Way to Stay Healthy
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayi...y-stay-healthy

"Frequent hand washing with soap and water can save you money—and misery—by helping you avoid medical bills, missed workdays, or having to stay home with a sick child. And you’ll also protect your friends and family: A CDC survey found that 40 million Americans a year fall prey to illnesses spread by hands, which can harbor up to 500,000 bacteria per square centimeter"

Those are much sounder sources of information.