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Old 05-15-2007, 05:10 PM
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Unhappy Dumb cousin + NTFS = sad Sansa

I recently got a Sansa e250. It was working quite nicely...until my cousin got ahold of it. He likes to pretend that he is an expert on anything tech-related when in actuality he isn't. Long story short, he thought it would be better to connect the Sansa to the computer (I have it configured in MSC mode because I also use it as a USB ThumbDrive) and reformat it's internal memory as NTFS ("Dude, NTFS is better! FAT is so old-school!"). Needless to say...I am now the proud owner of a shiny black brick.

I already tried reinstalling the firmware and using the recovery and update tools available on the Sandisk website, but nothing seems to help. The most progress I can make is that it'll start up, but then it'll say that the memory is full when in fact there is absolutely nothing on it.

How can I get my Sansa back in working order?
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:14 PM
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How did he manage to format in NTFS? Last time I formatted, the only option was FAT
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:24 PM
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According to him, he used the "convert" command at the DOS prompt (I don't know what it does, I've never used it before). I tried reformatting it through My Computer (The Sansa internal memory appears as drive J:\ on my computer), but all it does is say that there is no disk in the drive. There doesn't appear to be any format command built into the setup menu on the device itself, just "reset" (Which only seems to change the settings back to default, not the entire memory).

I'm at a loss here.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:25 PM
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How can I get my Sansa back in working order?
Reformat it to FAT. He is correct in one sense though- the FAT family of filesystems is one of the worst that I have seen and should really be dumped in this day and age

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Old 05-15-2007, 05:29 PM
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Reformat it to FAT. He is correct in one sense though- the FAT family of filesystems is one of the worst that I have seen and should really be dumped in this day and age

Charles
I can't reformat it. Every time I try to do so, Windows complains "There is no disk in the drive"
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:39 PM
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Try my recovery program in my sig it will downgrade the firmware and format it for you that should fix everything right up
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THANK YOU!!! That fixed it right up! You rock!
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:04 PM
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I can't reformat it. Every time I try to do so, Windows complains "There is no disk in the drive"
Oh boy, I did some research. In order to reformat to FAT on Windows you need to repartition which will brick the Sansa for good. You might be able to reformat without repartitioning with some third tool such as "Partition Magic" or you might be able to do it by changing the partition ID with fdisk from DOS and then reformat (not recommended for the novice). If you have a friend who using Linux try asking him/her to do it. It involves:

(1) changing the partition id to "c" with "fdisk".

(2) Make the filesystem with "mkfs.vfat".

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Old 05-15-2007, 06:21 PM
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THANK YOU!!! That fixed it right up! You rock!
You aren't done yet. Go over to your cousin and kick his ass, for almost bricking your Sansa and throwing your cash down the drain.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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Oh, I thought NTFS meant Not To F'ing Smart .
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Oh, I thought NTFS meant Not To F'ing Smart .
It is not too smart. NTFS is the only modern filesystem that I know that needs defragging.

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I have this very same problem by mistake I formatted my e200 with NTFS instead of FAT32 and it's doomed, please help me out
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http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick

Follow the instructions to format it (note that you CANNOT use the Windows format tool). You must use those instructions.
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