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Old 03-22-2011, 11:19 AM
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Default Ultimate ears triple fi 10 - most uncomfortable/awkward fitting iems ?

Hi - does anyone also feel these are the most uncomfortable/awkwardly designed iems ? I just can't get a good fit, I tried out all the tips that came with the the iems+ tips from other headphones ..nothing works.
I have just ordered a set of small sized comply tips to see if it helps.
Any thoughts ? Anyone else feels the fit can be improved are there any other types of tips/cables/mods I should try out ?
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:34 AM
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I agree. Their designer never saw a human ear in their life, it seems.

You could put the left cable in the right IEM and vice versa - that way you can wear them without them sticking out of the ears so far. It helped some people in getting a better fit with them.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:49 AM
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A more expensive route if switching the cables doesn't work for you is to have custom shells made for them from either http://www.uniquemelody.org/Enlish/ or http://www.fisherhearing.com/, IIRC starts around $80 + impressions but the price may have gone up by now. You can see an example of them here.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:58 PM
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A more expensive route if switching the cables doesn't work for you is to have custom shells made for them from either http://www.uniquemelody.org/Enlish/ or http://www.fisherhearing.com/, IIRC starts around $80 + impressions but the price may have gone up by now. You can see an example of them here.
thanks .. those links are very useful.
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I agree. Their designer never saw a human ear in their life, it seems.

You could put the left cable in the right IEM and vice versa - that way you can wear them without them sticking out of the ears so far. It helped some people in getting a better fit with them.
its like the engineer assembled 3 drivers and a crossover into a blue colored pipe and ..then asked..ok now where do these go ? ears or ....... ?
..I'll try the flip and see.

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Old 03-22-2011, 03:20 PM
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With the medium hybrid tips and the flip flop mod they are very comfortable, flip them and try the hybrid tips.
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Like everyone else has said, try the flip mod.

Personally, I am rather surprised at how comfortable the TF10 is for its size. It is getting a good seal that is problem for me, not comfort.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:12 PM
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If the flip mod works for you then that is by far the best option. If you feel you really like the sound and want a better fit I can recommend Fisher Hearing. I think the price is $90 now and if you want one of their cables they are an extra $30. You can have them make the stock cable fit by having them put in the stock Triplefi socket or you can have them put in their socket (which is similar to all the other high end customs, thus there are lots of cable options available) and pinch the ends of the stock cable with needlenose pliers which makes them a small bit bigger and fit into the more universal socket. I would not do that myself but others have, I just paid extra for their cable. In the headfi thread there is a lot of complaining about the original cable they sold, they have since switched and they are now very much like the westone cable, which is regarded well.

Here are pics of the ones Ive had done in case you wanted to see more "in the wild" pics. The darker is Shure SE530 since my cable got stiff and cracked and the clear/white is the Triple that I got re-done for obvious reasons lol. Oh, and the 530's have the old style cable that they replaced for me for free with 2day shipping. That company has had very good customer service for me using the telephone. They always answer all calls Ive made.





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If the flip mod works for you then that is by far the best option. If you feel you really like the sound and want a better fit I can recommend Fisher Hearing. I think the price is $90 now and if you want one of their cables they are an extra $30. You can have them make the stock cable fit by having them put in the stock Triplefi socket or you can have them put in their socket (which is similar to all the other high end customs, thus there are lots of cable options available) and pinch the ends of the stock cable with needlenose pliers which makes them a small bit bigger and fit into the more universal socket. I would not do that myself but others have, I just paid extra for their cable. In the headfi thread there is a lot of complaining about the original cable they sold, they have since switched and they are now very much like the westone cable, which is regarded well.

Here are pics of the ones Ive had done in case you wanted to see more "in the wild" pics. The darker is Shure SE530 since my cable got stiff and cracked and the clear/white is the Triple that I got re-done for obvious reasons lol. Oh, and the 530's have the old style cable that they replaced for me for free with 2day shipping. That company has had very good customer service for me using the telephone. They always answer all calls Ive made.
wow .. now I need to get one of those custom fits from fischer..
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Old 03-23-2011, 10:40 AM
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I forgot the added cost of impressions. You have to have an audiologist make you some ear impressions. It cost me $20 for them. Prices seem to vary drastically so you need to shop around. Dont call them molds, call them impressions. Make sure they know you just want the goo squirted in your ear, not ear plugs or the like. Also, it is a very exact process and it is somewhat likely you will need to send back for minor adjustments. My triple were perfect first time but the shures went back twice but now they are perfect and were more than worth the wait. Fisher flipped the bill for shipping after the first send back. If you have any more questions just ask, Im always around ABI.
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I forgot the added cost of impressions. You have to have an audiologist make you some ear impressions. It cost me $20 for them. Prices seem to vary drastically so you need to shop around. Dont call them molds, call them impressions. Make sure they know you just want the goo squirted in your ear, not ear plugs or the like. Also, it is a very exact process and it is somewhat likely you will need to send back for minor adjustments. My triple were perfect first time but the shures went back twice but now they are perfect and were more than worth the wait. Fisher flipped the bill for shipping after the first send back. If you have any more questions just ask, Im always around ABI.
..I just found some audiologist nearby ..just need to get the rates etc.
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I got an audiologist here that does impressions for free, while another one wanted EUR 60. So don't fall for too high prices, shop around.
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..I just found some audiologist nearby ..just need to get the rates etc.
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Make sure they're familiar with best practices for monitor ear impressions. Sure all of them know how to for hearing aids but not all do the best for custom monitors. My first impressions were rejected by ue and I'm glad they were as with the second I've never had a problem. The second audiologist I used was very familiar and had done them for many peeps/bands, the price wasn't bad either, iirc I paid $35.00.
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Make sure they're familiar with best practices for monitor ear impressions. Sure all of them know how to for hearing aids but not all do the best for custom monitors. My first impressions were rejected by ue and I'm glad they were as with the second I've never had a problem. The second audiologist I used was very familiar and had done them for many peeps/bands, the price wasn't bad either, iirc I paid $35.00.
Yeah, as long as we are thinking of things, what I would do if I was you would be to call Fisher, ask for Kaysen (although the other girl should be fine also) and have them email you the direction sheet. You will get the sheet and also get into the system.

Now that you have the direction sheet you can call around for quotes. The sheet is specific in the type of material they want the audiologist to use and the procedure also. If you read this to the audiologist on the phone and he/she seems familiar with what the heck you are talking about then you should be good to go.

It really isnt that hard to do and doesn't take a specialist. Any audiologist can do it for you, so as long as they are cool with Fishers procedure on type of dam material, impression material, depth of impression and bite block they should be competent enough to do it. They should be smart enough to learn with specific directions, any audiologist should understand ear anatomy. If you give them no specific directions though I could definitely see how things could go wrong easily.

Like WalkGood I had a bad set made by the first guy I went to at Beltone. The second was a lady with only experience making them for hearing aids, but she looked at the directions and was easily able to understand what they wanted and has now made two perfect sets for me in a row.

Oh, and dont wear a hat that might touch your ears, it seems like common sense but thought Id mention it anyhow.
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pseudohippy I agree to some extent but I did give the guy that did my first pair a directions sheet and I think he was insulted, fortunately for me he didn't charge me so all was fine. I only mentioned this issues as I've spoken with and read the horors from some that received their customs with fit issues and the hassles they've had to go thru to get them fitted correctly. Either by having them built up or shaving the shell, I wrote a little about this in my "UE11 One Year Later" review it's in the headphone review section if you want to skim it.
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pseudohippy I agree to some extent but I did give the guy that did my first pair a directions sheet and I think he was insulted, fortunately for me he didn't charge me so all was fine. I only mentioned this issues as I've spoken with and read the horors from some that received their customs with fit issues and the hassles they've had to go thru to get them fitted correctly. Either by having them built up or shaving the shell, I wrote a little about this in my "UE11 One Year Later" review it's in the headphone review section if you want to skim it.
Fair enough, of course, if you can find someone with experience for this specifically then definitely go with them. But depending where you are in the world it can be tough to find someone.

It just seemed to me to be an easy thing to do, other than the part where they put the dam into your ear at the proper depth (a little scary here). It seems as if they just fill the canal with the goo and as it comes out they turn small circles like topping an ice cream cone. But if you have horror stories I believe you. Ive been lucky I guess.

The lady that did mine turned out to be super nice and took quite the interest in the whole process. We even looked up Fishers website together and talked about the whole thing for quite some time.

Even though I thought my Triples were just fine the first week I was finding the slightest bit of imperfectness with one side and she actually buffed it out on her machine with me right there next to her until it fit perfect. All this for free, and told me to stop by anytime if they need any adjustment free of charge. So I guess the moral of the story is to get someone with experience if you can, you'll be best off, but if you cant find someone at least make sure they will work with you a bit if needed with maybe free second try's if Fisher rejects the first one.

Fisher also sends out lists of recommended audiologist by request. Might as well get that also while your talking to them.
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Fair enough, of course, if you can find someone with experience for this specifically then definitely go with them. But depending where you are in the world it can be tough to find someone.

It just seemed to me to be an easy thing to do, ...
Funny my second one was with a lady as well and she was great! Freebees and on follow ups I always get free cleaning tools as my original UE tool broke way back. Yes you're right it can't be that hard as I've seen them done at audio shows by reps and company owners, which I know are not audiologists. BTW the UE website has a very good list of audiologists from around the world in all the major cities and towns, they’re independent so they’ll do impressions for any manufacturer. UE also has very good instructions that you can show your audiologist.
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Hi - does anyone also feel these are the most uncomfortable/awkwardly designed iems ? I just can't get a good fit, I tried out all the tips that came with the the iems+ tips from other headphones ..nothing works.
I have just ordered a set of small sized comply tips to see if it helps.
Any thoughts ? Anyone else feels the fit can be improved are there any other types of tips/cables/mods I should try out ?
The complys are quite uncomfortable, they put too much pressure in the ears
(anyone else noticed the stink these complys have ? )
I tried out the silicone tips which come with the Headirect iems.. much better but not sure if the seal is good ...
Seems the custom mold is the best option now ..
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