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Old 04-30-2010, 08:41 PM
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Default Worth amping? Better sound than Nokia 5130?

Hi i am Having a Clip+ with sm pl-30s
is it really worth it to add an amp like Fiio e3?

also does clip+ sound better than my Nokia 5130?
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:22 PM
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No and yes but probably not enough difference for you to notice unless the 5130 was particularly bad.
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:08 AM
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Yeah, why not tell us which sounds better? I've never heard the Nokia 5130 and I doubt many have. So, it is up to you my friend to say which sounds better.

If you want to know which is more technical, you can do the tests yourself, but if you prefer a sound signature, ain't no one going to tell you that a player without that sig sounds good.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:36 AM
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I would say the Clip + is definitely worth owning, personally I wouldnít waste my money on the fiio e3 and Iím not sure that the soundmagic pl30ís would benefit. The phones certainly donít need additional power at 12 ohms of impedance and the fiio may just introduce unwanted crosstalk and additional background noise or hiss.

Since sound quality is subjective in nature, itís really up to you to decide what sounds better. That said, Iíve never heard the Nokia but Iíd say 9 out of 10 times the Clip is going to sound better than most phones and mp3 players.
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Old 05-01-2010, 03:49 AM
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I also simply cannot imagine any cell phone which sounds as good as a standalone DAP [well, except maythe iPhone and its iPod brethren,which, to be honest, isn't necessarily saying a lot...]
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I would say the Clip + is definitely worth owning, personally I wouldnít waste my money on the fiio e3 and Iím not sure that the soundmagic pl30ís would benefit. The phones certainly donít need additional power at 12 ohms of impedance and the fiio may just introduce unwanted crosstalk and additional background noise or hiss.

Since sound quality is subjective in nature, itís really up to you to decide what sounds better. That said, Iíve never heard the Nokia but Iíd say 9 out of 10 times the Clip is going to sound better than most phones and mp3 players.
Thnx For the wonderful insight walkgood.I was confused between 5130XM and SSC+ Coz i saw this Review.And they did it Very Seriously Too
Can u gv ur opinion now?
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Old 05-01-2010, 05:06 PM
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Thread title (original 'N00b Questions') changed.

That RMAA test doesn't show very realistic results without a load attached.
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I don't notice my Nokia 5800 sounding worse than my Clip+ or any of my DAPs.

I just don't use it because it's clunky.
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Old 05-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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Thnx For the wonderful insight walkgood.I was confused between 5130XM and SSC+ Coz i saw this Review.And they did it Very Seriously Too
Can u gv ur opinion now?
It looks like they did those tests without actual headphones, so they're not very useful. Most people listen to portable devices with the headphones actually plugged in.
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I would venture to guess the numbers might not look as good as the Clipís with a correct test w/phone load.

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I don't notice my Nokia 5800 sounding worse than my Clip+ or any of my DAPs. ...
That is entirely possible, we may not hear some of the subtle differences and it may seem to sound acceptable.
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The 5800 sounds acceptable like most good phones, the EQ, though, is lousy - like a Creative.
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Nokia phones hiss audibly when playing back audio with a pair of headphones connected through a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter. This is due to a lack of a resistor in the audio output circuit. Using a pair of 'buds with a in-line volume control set to low and the Nokia phone volume set to high alleviates this problem.
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I think Nokia did away with the 2.5mm sockets some time ago.
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The 5800 sounds acceptable like most good phones, the EQ, though, is lousy - like a Creative.
Good point Dreamnine...I think my original comment should have been clearer. My point was that I simply don't see how any cell phone mp3 player could sound better than a stand alone DAP...but of course, it is possible that some may sound as good...

e.g. my Nokia 6300 sounds OK but like you, i find the interface clumsy. And my Blackberry Curve 8300 actually sounds pretty decent through my IEMs, but again, relatively poor GUI and zero/crappy EQ-enhancements...
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Oddly enough, I just bought a 5130 the other day. The Clip(+) sounds alot better to my ears, and the battery life beats the hell out of the 5130 too.

PM me with some of your thoughts on the phone? It's totally off topic but I'd be interested to hear a seasoned opinion.

Also, not sure about what it'll be like over an Amp, my FiioE5 burned out a while ago. I remember liking what it did to the sound on my Clipv1/e200v2 though. Would be worth a try...

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I think Nokia did away with the 2.5mm sockets some time ago.
You're right, the 5130 has a standard 3.5mm jack on it. It does very well as a standalone MP3 player too (5-band EQ, decent enough sound quality, stereo speaker), but the battery life is pretty awful and the UI isn't as good as a standalone DAP (IMO).
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Oddly enough, I just bought a 5130 the other day. The Clip(+) sounds alot better to my ears, and the battery life beats the hell out of the 5130 too.

PM me with some of your thoughts on the phone? It's totally off topic but I'd be interested to hear a seasoned opinion.

Also, not sure about what it'll be like over an Amp, my FiioE5 burned out a while ago. I remember liking what it did to the sound on my Clipv1/e200v2 though. Would be worth a try...

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You're right, the 5130 has a standard 3.5mm jack on it. It does very well as a standalone MP3 player too (5-band EQ, decent enough sound quality, stereo speaker), but the battery life is pretty awful and the UI isn't as good as a standalone DAP (IMO).
THnx Just what i was lookin for
Regarding 5130's Battery,U must be very unlucky,Coz I get a 10-11 hr Backup And my friends who own it also do the same.Here in India Nokia Is Like a Cult Brand.
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I find that the FiiO amps add a further slight warmth/depth to the sound and a further clarity to higher sounds, maybe in the nature of 10-20%.
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Wow my Nokia 6300 still has a 2.5mm jack .
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Wow my Nokia 6300 still has a 2.5mm jack .
Yup...I also have a Nokia 6300...2.5mm sucks...
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