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Old 10-12-2009, 03:12 PM
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Default On second thought, the issue is deeper

Thanks for all the replies, the queue thing really bothers me more than the behavior of the boundary feature -- which on research seems to be flaky on all Cowon players, past and current.

But the queuing is so important and offers Cowon a chance to really integrate a feature that would set it far ahead of Sony (which refuses to offer even something as basic as the Cowon favorites feature in their $300+ players) and Microsoft. (Don't know about iPod, I'm Applephobic they may or may not offer a decent queuing option

The problem is, I think, Cowon believes their favorites list is a queue, which in a sense it is but in reality isn't. A real music queue would allow you to add albums or artists as well as single songs, it would work with minimal going back and forth to menus, up arrows, sideways arrows,etc.

Most of all it would allow three things:

1. Select songs and send to now playing queue at anytime -- even when music isn't playing.

2. Add a song to the queue with the option of placing it after the currently playing song or at the end of the queue.

3. Last but definitely not least, by definition a queue is temporary in nature ... there has to be a one-click accessible "clear queue" option or it is not a queue, it is a playlist (which by definition is a semi -permanent collection of songs.

Regarding 3, Claw's UCI does (thank's Claw) have a clear queue option, but as far as I can figure out you have to enter utilities, user settings, music and maybe one or two other menus to get to it. Since Cowon has so far refused to address this issue in firmware, maybe Claw could move that function to a button on the music screen.

The thing that bothers me is that none of these companies, particularly Sony, which is the worst, seen to understand that music is all about mood. When I turn on my player I don't necessarily -- almost never, in fact -- want to hear the same songs I heard the last time.

Frequently, I don't want to hear any of my playlists either. What I have in my head is four or five songs I'd like to hear RIGHT NOW to begin with and maybe than switch to a playlist or just random play of the whole library or a specific genre or whatever.

Why can't someone create a PMP that will allow people like me to turn the thing on, clear the now playing list and add those four or five songs without a hassle?

As I said before, this ain't rocket science. Every PC-based music player from barebones ones like Foobar 2000 to resource hogs like Winamp offer this. Every network player like Sonos and Slingbook offer it.

All a PMP is, really, is a computer-based digital music player with an integrated display screen and operating controls, it can't be that hard to implement something so basic as add to now playing and clear now playing into the firmware.
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