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Old 12-16-2008, 04:34 PM
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Default Which of the e200 series are rockboxable?

My brother needs a new mp3 player and I was telling him maybe he should get the e200. I showed him some rockbox features on the website and he thought that would be cool. So I'm thinking about getting him an e200 for christmas but a lot of stores and such have different versions such as the e250, e260, MX4 e270, and different posts or threads are saying that only certain versions on certain models can support rockbox. Which players and which version of the player can support rockbox? Also, how do I know if I'm getting the right version without taking it out of the box and powering it up?
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:03 PM
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i dont think you can rightly tell just by looking superficially or by the serial number.
what you need is a version 1 player that will work with rockbox.
most refurbs seem to be version one. i picked up an e250 from buy.com and it was a v1 and runs rockbox just fine.
alternatively, if you one to get one with some certainty, froobi.com had rockbox certified e200s for sale. (ie v1s)

like this e250 :http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-..._78-32284.html

or this e280 : http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-..._78-32283.html



btw.. edit. rockboxing aside, when it comes to sq, useability and a nicer screen, if you're going to pair it with a decent pair of phones (and i dont mean one that costs more than the unit, something like a koss porta pro), the fuze may be the better way to go imho.

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Old 12-16-2008, 10:06 PM
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i dont think you can rightly tell just by looking superficially or by the serial number.
what you need is a version 1 player that will work with rockbox.
most refurbs seem to be version one. i picked up an e250 from buy.com and it was a v1 and runs rockbox just fine.
alternatively, if you one to get one with some certainty, froobi.com had rockbox certified e200s for sale. (ie v1s)

like this e250 :http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-..._78-32284.html

or this e280 : http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-..._78-32283.html



btw.. edit. rockboxing aside, when it comes to sq, useability and a nicer screen, if you're going to pair it with a decent pair of phones (and i dont mean one that costs more than the unit, something like a koss porta pro), the fuze may be the better way to go imho.

I can't order online so futureshop or walmart are my best bets. The walmart near me might have some e250s and here's what futureshop has http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/sub...=0&page=2&list. Do all the e200, e250, e260, e270, and e280s have the version differences? Also what's the differences between each of the models?
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:32 PM
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e250=2gb, e260=4gb, e270=6gb, e280=8gb.

walmart has a decent return policy. you could try them out. check the version number, if its not v1, return it.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:32 PM
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If you're patient, the version-2 e200's will most likely be Rockbox-able within a few months. If you follow the discussions, news entries and build information from the Rockbox developers, you'll see that they've already done much of the work, and at a good pace during the second half of this year. The same goes for the other "V2" players from Sansa that share most of its "innards" - the Fuze and the Clip. It seems the V2 e200's are more similar to those players than to its V1 cousin.
BTW - there's also the Rhapsody version of the e200's. If you find one of those I believe you're able to run Rockbox on them right away, as they are a modified version of the v1's, able with their original firmware to use subscription based Rhapsody music service and their DRM encoding.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:20 AM
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BTW - there's also the Rhapsody version of the e200's. If you find one of those I believe you're able to run Rockbox on them right away, as they are a modified version of the v1's, able with their original firmware to use subscription based Rhapsody music service and their DRM encoding.
the e250 i picked up from buy.com was a e250r refurb but had the regular e250 firmware. i guess sansa loads non rhapsody firmware onto the them when sold as refurbs.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:22 AM
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Asmd, the backs are easy to change. So do not trust the backs. The e200R firmware has a checksum. You need to use the e200tool to make an e200R to a e200, too. The other way around is easy tho.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:56 AM
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err yeah, i magine that would be true, just 4 screws. but why would they swap the backs.. ie sell the e250 but with the back of the e250r??
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:18 AM
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Because it's refurbished. Maybe the e250r back was the least damaged one they had on hand?
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:30 AM
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they must sure have a lot of those backs...
this buy.com ad sells them specifically as "r" models but doesnt describe them as "r" models. they were going for 25$ shipped.. look at the stupidtastic price now... ha ha... someones got to be daft to pay 91$ for a e250 refurb.. almost fell of my chair when i saw that.

http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sans...205562657.html


werent these rhapsody models sold by specific stores? maybe they had too many on hand or it simply just didnt sell (the e200 series is getting a wee bit long in the tooth), so is it possible they reflashed the firmware and flogged it off as refurb? i makes little sense why they would do that... but hey, its a funny world. as mentioned, maybe they just had a whole load of parts laying that they needed to offload.

if this were returns that they put e250r backs onto... would they have done that to an entire run of units? curious.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:29 AM
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When the e200R series was new, they was mainly sold at Rhapsody and Best Buy. Now days, you do not know when or if you will get an e200R since they are refurbs. You could, but it is not a big deal tho since the e200v1 and e200R series have the same insides.
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