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Old 04-22-2008, 11:18 AM
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Default Bitrate for converting to WMA for Clip

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Just bought a 2gb clip and want to jam as many tunes as possible into it. I'm importing most of my music from (gasp!) itunes and converting those to WMA because I heard that WMA sounds better and leaves a smaller footprint than MP3 (which most of my tunes are formatted anyway).

My question is when I convert to WMA what is the smallest bit rate I can use without them sounding to crappy and leaves a small enough footprint for at least 500 songs?
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:00 PM
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It is not a good idea to convert one lossy format to another lossy format. Anyway, WMA are usually half the bitrate of MP3, tho.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:05 PM
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Well unfortunatly the clip only takes MP3 or WMA (+secured).
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:16 PM
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I can tell u for sure that MP3 is way better than the lousy WMA.
Now, I wish the Clip had a FLAC and Ogg support...
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:54 PM
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Really I heard that WMA was a better format and it sounded somewhat better?

I have all my Albums ripped to Mp3 purely for convienece because I can transfer between the various DAPs I own.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:02 PM
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That's a principal reason I have my music in MP3 format as well. But I guess WMA requires significantly less space for the same quality level.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:06 PM
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Exactly that's why I wanted to convert the tunes I wanted to put in the clip to WMA. The clip I have is only 2gb so I really don't have a lot of room to play around with........
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:03 PM
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Transcoding lossy formats is not usually a good idea. In general a WMA can have better quality at a given size (or smaller size at a given quality) than MP3, but that assumes both we created from lossless sources.

You're proposing taking a file already compressed with a lossy codec and compressing it again with another lossy codec at a high comperssion level. This will certainly cause a decrease in sound quality. Which would be a shame on the amazing Clip.

This is why my whole library is FLAC. Then I can always transcode to whatever I need for portable use. Winamp does a really good job of handling this.

Of course you can always try it and see how it goes. If you're happy with the result, that's all that really matters.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:01 AM
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Good advice, thanks!
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:44 AM
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WMA may be better than mp3 at the same bitrate for bitrates under 128 kbps, but at over 128 kbps the differences become small. Decoding WMA takes much more processing than decoding mp3, so battery life will be much shorter with WMA. As others have pointed out, making a lossy file from an already lossy file will decrease sound quality significantly. If you really want WMA files, then make them from the CD and not from mp3 files.
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