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Old 07-10-2006, 05:13 AM
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Smile Sansa e200 and Mac?

Ok, i realise that i'm going to get flamed for even considering this- but get over it .

incidentally this is my first post ^-^

Ok, quite frankly i'm a recentally converted Mac user. I also found the Sansa e270 Mp3 Player on the front of a catalogue, and thought "thats the mp3 player i want to replace my 3rd generation ipod".

Being someone who isn't deterred easily, i saw the warning signs all over the sandisk site, ebay, everything else i found on the sansa that said "Recommended Windows XP". Quite frankly- i don't buy it.

Now i want information before i actually commit to doing this to make sure i'm not undertaking more than i could handle;

- To upload files onto the sansa you can just dump the files on the drive, correct?

- What format do videos use (and res's fps if possible (not necessary but hey, it might be nice )?

- Can pictures just be uploaded by drag and drop on the drive?

- is there a windows application for firmware updates, or is it done on-drive or...?

- Is there anything i'm missing?

I realise alot of this is covered on the forums, and i have been through the forums, but i thought it'd be best to ask clearly, so i don't get an impression that could be incorrect.

Thanks in advance-

Shiven

P.S: could we keep the anti-mac sentiment to a minimum? i'm here for information not a flamewar
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Old 07-10-2006, 06:52 AM
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- To upload files onto the sansa you can just dump the files on the drive, correct?
Yep

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- What format do videos use (and res's fps if possible (not necessary but hey, it might be nice )?
It plays .MOV files, JPEG-B encoding. Check out hamchoba's post in this thread.

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- Can pictures just be uploaded by drag and drop on the drive?
I don't think anyone's figured out what format they use yet. I might play around with this later today.

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- is there a windows application for firmware updates, or is it done on-drive or...?
It's a self-extracting .exe.. but you could easily use a friend's Windows computer to do it. It doesn't take very long and it isn't very hard.

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- Is there anything i'm missing?
you tell me
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:34 AM
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Excellent! Thanks Tim for the prompt and curteous reply. As for the firmware update on windows thing... well... i'll work out a way around that.

I figure media player playlists wont be too hard to reverse engineer, playlists are just files that point to other files with proper paths...

i'm going to get me a sansa very soon *beams*

Thanks guys
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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I figure media player playlists wont be too hard to reverse engineer, playlists are just files that point to other files with proper paths...
This guy posted what sounds like a very convenient utility here. I don't use playlists, but skimming through his post I guess the Sansa uses .pla files. It should be pretty easy to make em if you look up their format.
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Old 07-10-2006, 03:40 PM
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Please use more descriptive thread titles as isansa already pointed out.

Thank you.

Thread title changed.
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:44 PM
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sorry for the stupid thread title- i was half asleep when i wrote it.

isansa: terminal isn't an issue for me- i used linux for 4 1/2 years before moving to mac osx

Yeah, dot files can be an issue with this sort of thing, but i figure a couple of scripts wont go astray to cleaning it up

Tim: thanks for the link, doesn't look too complicated... well compared to the scheme of things...

Thanks guys (girls) and otherwise
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:53 AM
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Call me nuts but...
Well, if you insist...

Nuts!
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:30 PM
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- To upload files onto the sansa you can just dump the files on the drive, correct?
Someone already replied "Yep" but, if it puts you at ease, I'll reiterate that. I just drag and drop my mp3s from Mac OS X to an e260 and things are working OK.

You will also end up with the omnipresent Apple Double files on the Sansa but you can delete them. That is, every foo.mp3 file will have an invisible associated ._foo.mp3 file.

Don't do this unless you're comfortable with the command line. "rm" can be dangerous (remove files you actually want to keep) if you're not careful with your typing. Open a shell (terminal.app) and:
1. cd /Volumes/Sansa\ e270/MUSIC
to change directory to your music files.
2. ls -a
to see all the files, including those that begin with "."
3. rm ._*
will remove (delete) every file that begins with ._
4. ls -a
to see if you missed anything.
You can also remove the .DS_Store files with
5. rm .DS_Store

I do music only so I can't address your other questions. There are playlist limitations on the e200 series that are Mac independent: you can't just organize lists by folders and sub-folders. There is only one playlist possible ("go"?). Etc.

BTW, your subject "Call me nuts" is useless. If someone has Mac Qs or issues they will miss this thread. Try to use descriptive phrases that are useful.

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Old 08-27-2006, 12:42 PM
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P.S: could we keep the anti-mac sentiment to a minimum? i'm here for information not a flamewar
Its anything but ipod not anything but mac.

It may even be a good idea to start a Mac/Linux subforum here.
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Old 08-27-2006, 11:02 PM
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Its anything but ipod not anything but mac.

It may even be a good idea to start a Mac/Linux subforum here.
An interesting thought, and I appriciate it - but maybe it should be an MSC section instead. Once we get a firmware under our belt, most of our problems are performing the "usual functions" using MSC alone; video conversion, picture loading, playlist creation, etc. These "alternate management mechanisms" can also apply to Windows users who don't want to use the Sansa software or WMP.

We'll try and avoid telling people to load linux on a seperate partition in order to use the bash, perl, awk & sed scripts that arise to magically solve some of the issues above..

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Old 12-11-2006, 03:19 PM
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An interesting thought, and I appriciate it - but maybe it should be an MSC section instead. Once we get a firmware under our belt, most of our problems are performing the "usual functions" using MSC alone; video conversion, picture loading, playlist creation, etc. These "alternate management mechanisms" can also apply to Windows users who don't want to use the Sansa software or WMP.

We'll try and avoid telling people to load linux on a seperate partition in order to use the bash, perl, awk & sed scripts that arise to magically solve some of the issues above..
There are at least two vastly divergent areas we're talking about here, that maybe should be on separate forums.

For a lot of Mac users I'd guess (I'm not one) they'd be mainly interested in Q&A about solving Mac-specific issues about MSC connections, transferring music etc. in the Mac interface, and Mac software to help with those tasks. That wouldn't apply to any Windows users - beyond the basic principle of a generic MSC protocol and you plug it into a USB port, I don't think there'd by much cross-platform relevance.

Unix and Perl scripts would interest a much different audience. I expect it would be mostly Unix/Linux users who participate, but there'd also be that minority of Mac users who actually use its Unix command line capability, and a few Windows users who install Windows implementations of Unix commands & Perl. Whatever platform the people use, the common interest would be scripting to use with the Sansa.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:35 PM
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Dude, you're responding to content that is 3 and a half months old... My post was before there was more than one forum...

It was a mistake for the person to come along and attach to it. There is newer content regarding this in the Firmware sub-forum.

Yes, I am a Mac user who uses it because it's unix - I couldn't give a .... about the old style, historical, Mac issues. If they drop, or hinder access to, the unix underneath - it'll be on ebay so fast the battery won't even be cold...

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Old 12-10-2006, 12:14 PM
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why did you convert to MAC???omg they stink so bad...well anyways i feel sorry for you
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Old 12-10-2006, 05:25 PM
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Ignoring idiotic trolls...

You should search/check the Firmware sub-forum for some more Mac info. It worked fine with Mac OS X until the 1.02.xx series of firmwares.

I haven't found a solution/workaround for it. Attempting the Sansa on the mac (and subsequent failure) also renders that USB port on my mac unable to mount other USB filesystems until I reboot my powerbook (PPC).

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Old 12-11-2006, 12:55 PM
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sorry i just dont like macs
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:06 PM
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I can once again confirm that my E200 worked perfectly under OSX until the last firmware release or two.

A device that's supposed to have a mode that works like a USB storage drive has no excuse to not work on a particular platform. As it is I can occasionally get it to mount. Try plugging it in before you log in, then logging in. It may have just been random but those are the only times that I've had it work lately. It often disables my USB also
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:00 PM
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Getting the firmwares shouldn't be a problem, even on a mac. All you need to do is look around the forum. There is a firmware dump somewhere....
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:16 PM
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i was just wondering if anyone knew how to place the photos into the sansa yet
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The media converter does that
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:11 PM
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The media converter does that
Considering the Subject of the thread is "Sansa e200 and Mac?" I would have to guess that he's talking about getting pictures on to a Sansa from a Mac.

Someone thought he was having success or going to, but that was some time ago and I haven't heard anything since then. I think you might find it in the Firmware forum, but I'm not sure. Do a few searches, I can't remember what the subject was - sorry.

I'm waiting for a new firmware to see if I can get access again with the mac. Until then, I enjoy the music I put on it before the 1.02.xx series of firmware came out. I may downgrade to the last 1.01 at some point, but I've got about 900 songs on it, so I'm OK for now...

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