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Old 02-20-2013, 07:42 PM
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The ps4 on a hardware standpoint looks like total crap, these are the assumptions I have for it based on what has been said.

-Gpu and Cpu are on same die, thus limiting the performance as heat , power usage, and cooling come into play cooling off such a dense area. I am guess that given cost of a console that they chose amd and that the the cpu is probably clock as low as 1.5 ghz to stay within decent power usage and cooling system cost. Given that a 4 ghz 8 core modern amd cpu can barely top out a 4 core intel i5 , this may make a very slow cpu but with lots of usable threads. Even though games are getting better at using multiple cores you still have the bottle neck of a slow cpu architecture paired with a low clock rate. Having the gpu on the same area will also make for a slow / lower complexity gpu for cost , cooling, and power reasons. Since it is a home console , I am sure they will limit full power consumption under 150 watts to make for good heat output and limited complexity of the power supply. In the end this spells for fairly low performance. Also 8gb of ram is nice but ho knows how many cpu cores or ram wil be devoted to the other always on functions of the console (like the video recording of games / drm/ background updates).

-They moved to x86 and since cost will limit the type of cpu, backwards compatibility for ps3 will never be able to be done in hardware. Solution ? Stream the game you probably already own from the game service sony bought. I am almost sure you will have to re-buy it and you will need to be online to play it. Another option would be to take said ps3 game, recompile it for use on x86 and put it up for a download , but still no direct play of you ps3 games. Why am I ranting about this ? Some of the best games this generation are on the ps3 as exclusives and I doubt the ps4 will have much of a library for a few years that will be exclusives.

-It is a PC ! Well speaking it is x86 and in theory you could hack the game to work on a standard pc with similar performance or better performance. This could make it become unnecessary to buy the ps4 as hacking communities will attempt to make something work. One good thing it would make devs able to port over to pc with very little effort.

-Unnecessary social crap ! Enough said... It is just looking like a system that will require 24/7 net access to use anything on it including playing 1 player games.

This is all just speculation and I am pretty bitter tonight for whatever reason, but screw it. Back to pc gaming I go.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:00 PM
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I'm just hoping it will drive the prices down on the PS3 and xbox 360.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:05 PM
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I'm just hoping it will drive the prices down on the PS3 and xbox 360.
oh it will, I am sure the ps3 still has another 5 years before they do not make it , look at the ps2... it will be a budget system in a years time and will still push units
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:38 AM
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Will the PSNetwork still be up you think?

I'm just sad about my favorite PS3 game(MAG) being so unpopular. I'm pretty sure if it was on the Xbox it would have been a much bigger title. Now theres only a few hundred people online when I play.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:13 AM
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Will the PSNetwork still be up you think?

I'm just sad about my favorite PS3 game(MAG) being so unpopular. I'm pretty sure if it was on the Xbox it would have been a much bigger title. Now theres only a few hundred people online when I play.
I am sure ps3 psn still has quite a bit of life as well, they might use it to push game sales as well when it becomes very aging...
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:08 AM
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Was there ever a chance of you actually leaving PC gaming? :P

Overall I get a Vita kind of vibe off of this all. Meaning in the end it'll be the software that determines if this is any good or not, but that's a given for anything Sony.

Only saving grace is their slight admittance of failure, like the whole 'Its about the games this time' talking point and their acknowledgement on how incredibly tedious waiting on updates and installations was.

Deeper implementation of "try before you buy" is great too, although I imagine it won't be widely adopted. People still want to release bad games, and they do not want people to know how bad they are before they buy them or hear about them.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:23 AM
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Is it just me, or are companies trying to sneak a PC into our living rooms? We've got Microsoft and the Xbox (it was originally called DirectXbox), Steam box, and now another console that is PC-like.
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Since there's no backwards compatibility with ps3 games I'll pass.
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