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djfonplaz 08-29-2011 05:54 AM

Which Sansa Player can do these things?
 
Hello,

I'd like to know which sansa player (I think fuze or fuze+) if its possible :

- manage playlist (like add track on a playlist, on the fly... better if the playlist are m3u);
- play all tracks with random mode and, if I don't like a song, delete it on the fly from the device;

Also, is the Sansa audio quality comparable to the Sony Walkma series in your opinion? (which I really like as quality).

Thanks :)

Enigmatic 08-29-2011 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571665)
I'd like to know which sansa player (I think fuze or fuze+) if its possible :

- manage playlist (like add track on a playlist, on the fly... better if the playlist are m3u);
- play all tracks with random mode and, if I don't like a song, delete it on the fly from the device;

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...5&postcount=11.
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Also, is the Sansa audio quality comparable to the Sony Walkma series in your opinion? (which I really like as quality).
Yes.

djfonplaz 08-29-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatic (Post 571669)

I prefeer to avoid the way to buy an mp3 player and change the firmware of it (it can take many problematics, I know for experience).

So there aren't any Sansa with these features? Really?

The DarkSide 08-29-2011 08:40 AM

Why are you creating threads in every section of the forum?

Enigmatic 08-29-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571674)
I prefeer to avoid the way to buy an mp3 player and change the firmware of it (it can take many problematics, I know for experience).

Many members have upgraded firmwares without problems, including me. I think I might have made about two-dozen firmware upgrades, and I have never bricked any MP3 players.
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So there aren't any Sansa with these features?
Without Rockbox? I do not think so.

Lagoo56 08-29-2011 12:47 PM

There is really no chance of bricking,the firmware is supereasy and simple to change because Rockbox installs with its on utility,just press the complete install button and thats it,its already installed,it doesn't get anymore simpler than that.

Confispect 08-29-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The DarkSide (Post 571676)
Why are you creating threads in every section of the forum?

Good question I count about 5 new users running around with no legs.

Mikerman 08-29-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagoo56 (Post 571709)
There is really no chance of bricking,the firmware is supereasy and simple to change because Rockbox installs with its on utility,just press the complete install button and thats it,its already installed,it doesn't get anymore simpler than that.

Please be careful about categorical statements like this. The last time I checked, the Rockbox site still has a warning that flashing the Clips can cause bricking slight though the possibility might be. Also, my understanding is that certain of the original V2 Clips can be bricked, given their architecture. I would just hate to see someone ending up with a bricked player when it is their one and only.

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatic (Post 571677)
Many members have upgraded firmwares without problems, including me. I think I might have made about two-dozen firmware upgrades, and I have never bricked any MP3 players.Without Rockbox? I do not think so.

Hey man, but are you sure? I just read this and seems it is possible remove track on the fly... :confused: And I think if its possible on Fuze, also on Fuze+. Can you confirm this?

Enigmatic 08-30-2011 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571813)
Hey man, but are you sure? I just read this and seems it is possible remove track on the fly... :confused:

But the Fuze’s original firmware does not have all the features that you asked for—only with Rockbox. For example, managing playlists on the Fuze with SanDisk’s firmware is very limited. You get only one on-the-go playlist that is limited to, I think, 200 songs. The on-the-go playlist cannot, if I am not mistaken, be exported.

The on-the-go playlist cannot, if I am not mistaken, be imported. If you research what Rockbox can do with playlists on the Fuze and what SanDisk’s firmware can do with playlists on the Fuze, I think you will very quickly realize that the original firmware’s handling of playlists is extremely limited.

And yes, you can also play all tracks randomly with the original firmware. But, again, this is limited compared to Rockbox, because the original firmware’s random algorithm is bad compared to Rockbox’s random algorithm: it is not that random. I know, because I have used them both. You can also do a search and find confirmation from other users.

So the short answer is, if I am not mistaken, there are no SanDisk MP3 players with all the features that you are looking for—only with Rockbox. Sorry if I did not make this clear earlier, but I did not want to do all this typing.
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And I think if its possible on Fuze, also on Fuze+. Can you confirm this?
I do not have a Fuze+. The Fuze+ has received mixed reviews. Caveat emptor.

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 05:08 AM

Thanks for the clear explanation. Now, avoiding the fact of manage playlists except with RockBox, is there on the Fuze (or Fuze+) the ability to phisically delete a song directly from the device? (without using the computer)

This is more important for me now... if it's avaiable, I think I'll purchase one of these players...

Enigmatic 08-30-2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571819)
Now, avoiding the fact of manage playlists except with RockBox, is there on the Fuze (or Fuze+) the ability to phisically delete a song directly from the device? (without using the computer)

http://www.sandisk.com/media/343157/...m_0809_eng.pdf, PDF page 35:
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To delete files directly from the Sansa player, follow these steps:
1. In playback mode, press the Submenu button.
2. Select Delete.
http://www.sandisk.com/microsites/sa...al%20_Sept.pdf, PDF page 32:
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Deleting content can be done either from the device within the sub-functions, or through your media manager.

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 08:14 AM

Awesome! So I think I'll purchase this player... Dunno if Fuze (max 8 gb but with buttons) or Fuze+ (16gb, but touch)....

Which MicroSDHC do you suggest? Brand or model... or it doesnt make any differences?

Enigmatic 08-30-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571839)
Which MicroSDHC do you suggest? Brand or model... or it doesnt make any differences?

So far I have had good results with Patriot, Transcend, and SanDisk.

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 11:41 AM

Ok Thanks! Now I read some more recensions. If I have problem I'll let you know! Thanks again for the help :)

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 04:15 PM

@Enigmatic : oh I forgot. Is it possible to play all tracks on the player in random mode? (in fact you didnt reply to this question:)) And can I play tracks as "folder mode"?

FreeZ5 08-30-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571913)
@Enigmatic : oh I forgot. Is it possible to play all tracks on the player in random mode? (in fact you didnt reply to this question:)) And can I play tracks as "folder mode"?

Fuze, Original Firmware: yes and yes.

Steve

dfkt 08-30-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571665)
Also, is the Sansa audio quality comparable to the Sony Walkma series in your opinion? (which I really like as quality).

With easy to handle dynamic driver IEMs and phones they sound the same. With multi-armature IEMs the AMS Sansas beat the flawed Sony players by so much, it isn't even funny. AMS Sansas have almost no output impedance, while Sony players have extremely high output impedance (close to 30 Ohm), which makes them practically unusable with multi-armature IEMs.

djfonplaz 08-30-2011 04:49 PM

I also see that Fuze+ have a bad touchpad. I think Fuze is my choose... is bad that 8gb max! But with microSd would be nice. So another question : is it expandible to microsdhc 32gb or just up to 8gb :) ?

Also I think I can't buy it on official website (on italy)...

Enigmatic 08-30-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djfonplaz (Post 571919)
But with microSd is nice (is it expandible to microsdhc 32 or just up to 8?) :)

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...5&postcount=11.
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Also I think I can't buy it on official website (on italy)...
http://www.amazon.it/SanDisk-Sansa-L...4738343&sr=1-2.


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