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dfkt 03-01-2010 04:04 PM

The HiSoundAudio AMP3 PRO1 "Audiophile" MP3 Player: A Pathetic Piece of Garbage
 
So everyone and their dog have been feverishly awaiting the arrival of the new Jesus players for audiophiles, the HiSoundAudio RoCoo and AMP3 PRO2, or STUDIO 1, or HAROLD, or whatever it's called. I don't care; I'm too lazy to look up what fancy names they made up to extract some more money from your wallet.

I borrowed the older AMP3 PRO1 from a friend, and I'm speechless that it's actually worse than I thought it would be. A lot worse. A lot.

http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9044.jpg http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9047.jpg

So the con artists who made that piece of crap allegedly stuck some "Class A" amp in it and called it a day. No wait, I give you the whole marketspeech drivel, it's even more awesome. That hunk of junk has a: "PDAA - Portable Digital Acoustic Amplifier". Sounds super manly and all astonishing and science-y, eh?

Too bad it actually sounds worse than your average decent brand player. I've tested it against the Sansa Clip and the Cowon S9, volume-matched to within 0.5dB - and both sound better than the AMP3, no matter what phones. Well, with IEMs the AMP3 is actually completely unusable, it hisses more than the FiiO E3 or the Minibox-E+. The hiss is louder than on any other player I've ever heard - and that includes $5 DealExtreme players. It hisses constantly, and it hisses and warbles some more when accessing the memory. "Class A", my ass. How about building an MP3 player that actually works, not some useless piece of crap sold with the help of fancy sounding rubbish and lies?

http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9048.jpg http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9050.jpg

http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9054.jpg http://anythingbutipod.com/images/fo...3/_MG_9056.jpg

The firmware matches the rest of the stinker. It's something some script kiddie cobbled together on a spare afternoon it seems. The player has extremely slow bootup, a sluggish UI, terrible usability, an awful file browser, and the list goes on. It's almost impossible finding an audio track with the sorry excuse of the braindead mix of ID3 and folder browsing they implemented on the crappy 3-line display. The player crashed on me a few times, and the ripoff iPod Shuffle controls are abysmal to operate. They react to every 3rd or 4th press if you're lucky.

It's plain pathetic, only a true con artist would sell such a piece of garbage for that ridiculous price, and have the nerve to call it an "audiophile" product. I pity the poor souls that fell for all these lies. But then again there's a lot of peer pressure on forums, and rarely anybody likes to admit that they fell for a scam - and so the lies spread. Anyways, enough of that - this player has no redeeming features. None at all, it's all bad, sad, and pathetic about it. Well, the battery life should be nice. No wonder since it's such a brick.

The AMP3 PRO1 is so extremely bad in every aspect; it's the ultimate in "Emperor's New Clothes". Just needs a $500 cryo-treated USB cable that matches the player. But seriously, I hope this writeup serves as a warning to people who are actually considering buying some dubious piece of hardware from some shady Chinese manufacturer with no moral standards (and their European or American strawmen).

Here's my RMAA test of that pathetic piece of junk: RMAA - AMP3 vs. Sansa Clip+. Results aren't even mediocre. I don't think I have to add anything to that.

Frequency response:

http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/Compa...20Clip+/fr.png

THD:

http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/Compa...0Clip+/thd.png

IMD:

http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/Compa...0Clip+/imd.png

Stereo crosstalk:

http://rmaa.elektrokrishna.com/Compa...20Clip+/ct.png

Dreamnine 03-01-2010 04:09 PM

Wow...that bad...

lestatar 03-01-2010 05:23 PM

This guy must be a stockholder:

http://www.compudio.ca/2009/12/hisou...e-bargain.html

I particularly love this part:

"Hisoundaudio has strayed away from the fancy packaging that many other manufacturers use. It is not covered in a ridiculous amount of material. Rather, Hisoundaudio has decided to go with a much simpler presentation."

Translation: "Hisoundaudio has decided to further kick their duped customers in the head by going with the cheapest, generic packaging possible, all the while laughing on the way to the bank."

I tried to find some recent sales figures for these devices but came up with squat.

What did PT Barnum say? There's a sucker born every day...

cheers,
-lestatar

The DarkSide 03-01-2010 07:09 PM

I knew it was a piece of shiite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adub 03-01-2010 07:12 PM

Good read, made me laugh heh.

no9 03-01-2010 09:43 PM

Nice craftsmenship! It looks like a Sunday School DIY amp project with a ebay China special #2 ipod nano hot glued to the front. I can only think of one real use for this thing, stuffing it in your sock to ward off a pack of dingos
http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...mary/dingo.jpg
Seriously though, you'd better hit the dominant male hard and first so as to scare off the rest of the pack before this thing disintegrates and your left to fight a bunch of pisssed off wild dogs with only Gene Simmons left boot;)

dfkt 03-02-2010 04:03 AM

Heh, I'll better get my GWAR and/or Manowar boots out as well.

I posted this review on Head-Fi as well, and the responses there are - as expected - quite a bit more colorful: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/hi...arbage-475328/

:D

The DarkSide 03-02-2010 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 447309)
Heh, I'll better get my GWAR and/or Manowar boots out as well.

I posted this review on Head-Fi as well, and the responses there are - as expected - quite a bit more colorful: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/hi...arbage-475328/

:D

Heh, great read again!!!!:p

EddieE 03-02-2010 06:23 AM

As much as I like your more traditional reviews, I've got to say I'm enjoying these "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!" style editorials.

Keep them up. ;)

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dfkt 03-02-2010 06:31 AM

I guess I should cut down a bit on watching Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation reviews.... ;)

Dreamnine 03-02-2010 08:28 AM

Off-topic a bit, but at least this site keeps it real with reviews and opinions. As for fans there is zealous then just plain psychotic elsewhere.

Marvin the Martian 03-02-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 447309)
Heh, I'll better get my GWAR and/or Manowar boots out as well.

I posted this review on Head-Fi as well, and the responses there are - as expected - quite a bit more colorful: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/hi...arbage-475328/

:D

There are more rational posts in that thread than I expected, to be honest.....but clearly by page 4, the "true believers" are coming out for blood....lol. :)

Adub 03-02-2010 12:30 PM

The multiple shills are hilarious, that yo43 guy is a riot.

esanthosh 03-02-2010 01:00 PM

dfkt, was the player fully "burned in" before you reviewed it? :p

Bad timing though - you prevented many non-audiophiles from embracing these "audiophile" players, thus preventing their graduation to "audiophile nirvana" :)

I was reading about Amp3 Pro2 at head-fi and got a little interested. Fortunately, one fellow Head-fier from India owned it. I asked for his impressions and based on that, decided not to go for it. The huge usability issues, which I do not experience with the big screen S9 or the 3-line Clip+ in exchange for a "great sound" just did not seem like a good bargain to me.

Hopefully dfkt would be able to answer this about Amp3 Pro2 later on - IF it is really good sounding as many claim, is it really better or is it just the "class A amp" sounding louder giving the illusion of a better SQ? ;)

Anyway, this review makes it that much more interesting to wait for dfkt's Rocoo review. Review section or Garbage section - that is the question :rolleyes:

dfkt 03-02-2010 01:03 PM

Decent brand portable players are already very very good as they are. Most have an issue or two (crosstalk, roll-off, hiss) with some kinds of headphones or in general, but those are negligible with a lot of phones, or can be removed with the help of a decent amp (from some trustworthy builder, like Corda, Headamp, and such). There's really nothing that can be "hugely" improved, there is nothing that could make a "night and day" difference anymore, because all the well regarded players are really decent already. Not only do these HiSound con artists dupe people into thinking there can be a "huge improvement" in sound quality (which is impossible, at least without psychoacoustic tricks like BBE and such) - but they have the nerve to sell something that actually sounds worse than a $20 Sansa Clip and has a lot more issues! :rolleyes:

WalkGood 03-02-2010 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub (Post 447409)
The multiple shills are hilarious, that yo43 guy is a riot.

Guess I made my point over there, but one wonders how many more “joined today” that he’ll get :D

Adub 03-02-2010 02:04 PM

hehe yeah, i am surprised he isn't getting more angry at my outright claims about his obvious connection to hi sound.

Chop4life 03-02-2010 07:49 PM

They should of called it »The HiSSoundAudio AMP3 PRO1... haha!

WalkGood 03-03-2010 05:07 AM

It's open again :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomana
I'm reopening this thread. I deleted 34 posts, and probably missed some. If folks can't post without flying off the handle and attacking each other, then folks might get a vacation from posting.


Marvin the Martian 03-03-2010 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalkGood (Post 447645)
It's open again :p

I like the Engrish post....lol.


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