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EnzoTen 12-19-2008 06:00 PM

Cowon S9 Connection Not Micro USB?
 
Ok, i made a mistake on calling this cable a mini-b but it is not. Its not off the shelf USB its some sort of proprietary connection, but i cant figure out what it is. Take a look at this photo, it is a 20-pin cable with "I/F" on the end of it. Video out and audio in are handled from this connection. Cables are sold seperately for these features. Anyone have any idea what it is?

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...&pictureid=515

iPoo 12-19-2008 06:07 PM

I've seen it before, but I have to think...

It does look a lot like Micro-B though, why would they use their own type when it looks the same as micro-b

Could you take a picture of the cable itself.

v-iso 12-19-2008 06:28 PM

Or do you have a seperate micro-usb cable you could try? Would be the easiest way to find out.

They're calling it a usb device (and usb 2.0 etc.) alot in the manual, can they do that even through only one end could be an actual usb connector?

sumx4182 12-19-2008 06:41 PM

it almost looks like a smaller version of an HDMI connector...weird...

the shape of it, i mean...

Nephersir7 12-19-2008 07:01 PM

Cowon S9 cable
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/...dd9fd54a22.jpg
Standard micro-usb-b cable
http://media.digikey.com/photos/Hiro...0H11504-ND.jpg

Thats so sad :( ...

elaine89 12-19-2008 07:04 PM

that sucks.

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 07:11 PM

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...&pictureid=531

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...&pictureid=530

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...&pictureid=529

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 07:14 PM

I Just got a response from Cowon PR:

Quote:

Sorry, I had to do a little research myself. The data transfer and charging cable is more commonly used for cell phones (LG, Samsung, Moto, Nokia, etc.), and is a standard, not proprietary plug. It's called a micro USB plug.
runs off to search phone cables...

Nephersir7 12-19-2008 07:16 PM

Wait a minute, could this be a hdmi-mini cable?
Hdmi-mini cable(at left):
http://www.gs2i.com/Photoweb/images/CORHDMIMHDMI10M.jpg

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephersir7 (Post 310403)
Wait a minute, could this be a hdmi-mini cable?
Hdmi-mini cable(at left):
http://www.gs2i.com/Photoweb/images/CORHDMIMHDMI10M.jpg

The configuration is different, i dont think its mini-hdmi. that would be something though huh?

http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Unlimit...9735992&sr=8-2

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...FL._SS400_.jpg

_Perfection_ 12-19-2008 07:39 PM

It's a micro usb cable as stated before and it is a pretty common cable. I know a few people who use them for their phones.

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Perfection_ (Post 310408)
It's a micro usb cable as stated before and it is a pretty common cable. I know a few people who use them for their phones.

Do you have any idea where they can be bought? Im looking at this and it doesnt look the same: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/0...facturers.html

The question i have is what usb cable has 20 pins?

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 08:12 PM

OK, its not a Micro USB cable, but a relatively standard 20-pin data cable.

Cowon just emailed me this correction:
Quote:

I double checked the information about the S9 connector, and actually, it is NOT a micro USB plug. Instead, it's commonly known as just a "20-pin data transfer and charging cable." It follows a industry standard more common in S. Korea where they are trying to standardize mobile device connections for CE such as cell phones, media players and other portables.

You will notice in the future more media players and cell phones from various companies (Samsung, LG, COWON, iriver and others) use this plug as a standard. Let me know if you have any questions.

kaotic_azn 12-19-2008 09:27 PM

hm that cable really does look like the same one as the one for the iriver spinn i swear.

fabarati 12-19-2008 09:34 PM

Could you check if the cable it uses is the same as the one on the lg viewty?

Nephersir7 12-19-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnzoTen (Post 310416)
OK, its not a Micro USB cable, but a relatively standard 20-pin data cable.

Cowon just emailed me this correction:

I just did a translated search with Google, and it looks like this information is true, but still think this is problematic because even though these cables are standard in Korea, they are as rare and pricey as proprietary cable everywhere else.

here are translated links i found about those cables:
http://translate.google.ca/translate...3Den%26tl%3Dko
This one is a very interesting find
it looks like a AV cable already exists
this article talks about the standard which is described as domestic

Here are some pics of the "standard" korean cable. Im 95% sure its the same as the s9: (from that article)
http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200810/3...97a3e451cb.jpg
http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200810/3...982a8b63bd.jpg

The DarkSide 12-19-2008 10:55 PM

Oh boy, will this be a problem? I really hope not.

EnzoTen 12-19-2008 10:56 PM

The bottom one looks like its the one, not the top samsung cable though since it only has one row. nice find!

The DarkSide 12-19-2008 10:59 PM

I really hope it's a standard data cable, or it'll be hell to find as a replacement.

Nephersir7 12-19-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnzoTen (Post 310466)
The bottom one looks like its the one, not the top samsung cable though since it only has one row. nice find!

Its from the same article. Maybe its the angle, but it is the same cable.
It looks like this cable is mostly known as the Samsung mini-20pin cable (at least it can be found under this name). it looks like those cables can be found on ebay and amazon.


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