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nedjinski 12-18-2008 09:41 AM

MSC MTP AUTO - which? why?
the clip has the options of operating in Auto or MSC or MTP modes-

what the advantages / disadvantages of operating in one mode or the other.

I noticed that the only way I can drag & drop files in Windows Explorer is if it's in the MSC mode.

the MTP mode seems to be the default mode? that is it responds the same as if the Clip is in Auto mode.

samueljesusfreak 12-18-2008 10:00 AM

There's a lot of documentation on MTP in here, and a lot of questions that have been answered already. Search function.. your friend :)

nedjinski 12-18-2008 10:39 AM

well, one thing I did notice is that in Auto or MTP mode and looking at the Clip using Windows Explorer I see the contents of the Clip and the pre-loaded songs that it came with - in the Music folder.

in MSC mode the folders are there but the pre-loaded songs are not visible.

samueljesusfreak 12-18-2008 10:52 AM

Yeah. Mtp puts the songs in there, but they're 'hidden', so you won't see them in MSC. The pre-loaded songs were probably put on there in MTP. MTP is good for subscription services like Rhapsody and other DRM music stores. MSC is good if you rip your own CDs or get DRM-free music(like iTunes and Amazon). It just appears like a regular flash drive, then.

JK98 12-18-2008 11:54 AM

"I noticed that the only way I can drag & drop files in Windows Explorer is if it's in the MSC mode."

Drag and drop works on the Fuze in both MSC and MTP modes. i would imagine this is the case for the Clip as well. I guess it depends on what updates your pc has. If your pc doesn't have certain updates, then I imagine that drag and drop might not work in MTP mode.

nedjinski 12-18-2008 12:48 PM

which updates on the pc are you referring to?

my Clip has the latest updates,

samueljesusfreak 12-18-2008 12:58 PM

Well I know that MTP devices don't really work on anything lower than Windows XP without special drivers, but if you have XP or Vista drag and drop should work. They just won't show up in explorer, but they should be on the player

Skinjob 12-18-2008 04:29 PM

The computer will only see files added under the current USB mode. If you want to switch modes, it's best to remove all your files first, change modes, then add your files again under the new mode.

As for why you would choose one or the other, the short answer is MSC is the standard used by all USB flash drives and external hard drives. It's supported on every OS and offers the most options for managing the content on your player. However, it doesn't support DRM protected content.

MTP is a protocol developed by MS to support DRM protected content. If you use subscription services or the like, you have no choice but to use MTP. However, it's very limiting in terms of tools you can use to manage the content on your player. There is limited support for MTP on some non-Windows OS's, but basically it requires XP or later and WMP10 or later.

jeffrok 12-18-2008 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by nedjinski (Post 309872)
which updates on the pc are you referring to?

my Clip has the latest updates,

If your PC is Windows XP, you can drag/drop in MTP mode.

I recommend MSC mode because it essentially makes your player readable for any other operating system- including Mac or UNIX.. You can also use any free space on the player to store ANY kind of file, not just music.. (though at 1 or 2gb that's not going to leave a lot of extra space).. MTP mode won't let you save anything to the Clip except music-related files, if I'm not mistaken.

advcomp2019 12-19-2008 10:33 AM

MTP mode needs Windows XP SP2 or newer with Windows Media Player 10 or newer installed, or Windows Vista. That is the updates they are talking about.

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