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EnzoTen 10-31-2007 09:14 AM

Sansa View Pinouts
 
I cracked open some cables to find the video outputs on the View. I successfully found Video as well as Left and Right audio channels as true line out.


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  1. +5v
  2. +5v
  3. ? - (jumped to ground with USB cable)
  4. USB Data +
  5. USB Data -
  6. ? - (jumped to ground with USB cable)
  7. Video +
  8. Audio Right (line out)
  9. Audio Left (line out)
  10. -
  11. -
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  14. Video +
  15. -
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  17. -
  18. -
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  27. Audio Right + (line out)
  28. Audio Left + (line out)
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EnzoTen 10-31-2007 10:39 AM

Here is the article and video demo of the video out.

Andreas 10-31-2007 11:15 AM

Very nice! Finally a company who got the whole deal with TV out (that works, cowon, that works!) and line out!

faction 10-31-2007 02:09 PM

What resolution does it output at?

zivan56 10-31-2007 08:13 PM

Considering it's composite signal, 480i for NTSC. Who knows though, they may have implemented S-Video as well (using other pins)

DJ Shred 10-31-2007 09:04 PM

Great job with this Enzo, I dont know why Sandisk doesnt advertise these feature themselves. :/

EnzoTen 10-31-2007 09:17 PM

its may not be a "ready" aka fully tested feature or the accessories may not be ready for retail shelves

nerd49 11-02-2007 06:43 AM

Where did you get that connector? I want to try....

trilux 11-03-2007 11:08 AM

This is terrific news!!!

If it an be hooked up to a TV, it becomes the best player around. Now, the question is WHICH videos will it play. Try playing avis encoded at 29 fps and 900kbs or better in DivX 4, 5 and Xvid and let us know the results.

Suppose it's useless trying one with AC3 audio, but ya never know.... might be surprised there.

EnzoTen 11-03-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trilux (Post 180315)
This is terrific news!!!

If it an be hooked up to a TV, it becomes the best player around. Now, the question is WHICH videos will it play. Try playing avis encoded at 29 fps and 900kbs or better in DivX 4, 5 and Xvid and let us know the results.

Suppose it's useless trying one with AC3 audio, but ya never know.... might be surprised there.

If it plays on the view it will play on the TV. Im finding the video support on the view is very picky and most content im coming across must be converted.

cyberspyder 11-09-2007 06:06 PM

Does anyone know if the cable and pinouts are the same on the Sansa? I wanna make a LOD for my amp (better than headphone-out)

Brendan

bradavon 11-12-2007 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zivan56 (Post 179550)
Considering it's composite signal, 480i for NTSC. Who knows though, they may have implemented S-Video as well (using other pins)

The fact it's composite won't mean it will be 480i which is a resolution higher than the View supports. 480i is the maximum resolution NTSC handles, it's not the only resolution. I seriously doubt the View upscales a 320x240 to 720x480 resolution.

It is a pity S-Video probably isn't support, composite sucks, but will do for an MP3 Player.

Quote:

Originally Posted by faction (Post 179395)
What resolution does it output at?

The same resolution that you've encoded the video in. I believe most people are using 320x240, which also happens to be roughly VCD quality, so definitely acceptable. But according to this link 480x272 is the maximum resolution supported:

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=21951

Quote:

Originally Posted by trilux (Post 180315)
If it an be hooked up to a TV, it becomes the best player around. Now, the question is WHICH videos will it play. Try playing avis encoded at 29 fps and 900kbs or better in DivX 4, 5 and Xvid and let us know the results.

It's the View doing the decoding not TV so whatever the View can handle will work.

It's likely audio is converted from whatever codec into PCM so your headphones can handle it. PCM is the standard for generic audio and will work on a TV.

bradavon 11-12-2007 09:12 AM

Any news on official cables being sold?

trilux 11-15-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradavon (Post 182830)
according to this link 480x272 is the maximum resolution supported:

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=21951


It's the View doing the decoding not TV so whatever the View can handle will work.

It's likely audio is converted from whatever codec into PCM so your headphones can handle it. PCM is the standard for generic audio and will work on a TV.

Of course it's the player and not the TV doing the decoding. Never heard of a TV with an internal decoding chip. They may arrive, but ain't here yet.

In any case, went to check a couple of recent DVD rips I have just to see if they could be played:

American Gangster 624X336 AC3
Pirates - World's End 720X304 AC3
Ratatuille 672X272 AC3

So, audio issues aside (No AC3 support) looks like not even Ratatuille would play. Pity.

bradavon 11-15-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trilux (Post 183962)
Of course it's the player and not the TV doing the decoding. Never heard of a TV with an internal decoding chip. They may arrive, but ain't here yet.

I wasn't the one asking if which videos would play when it's obvious any the View can play would work ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by trilux (Post 183962)
So, audio issues aside (No AC3 support) looks like not even Ratatuille would play. Pity.

Why would any of them work? I even said the maximum resolution is 480x272 :rolleyes:

Those are considerably higher, it's no wonder they fall to bits.

uniphil 12-29-2007 01:51 PM

Line in recording?
 
Any chance one of those pins might be for line-in recording? that would make this just about the perfect mp3 player for me.

idbl_fanatic 01-18-2008 04:56 PM

Now if we could just get a cable with video/audio out and USB charger in at the same time, that would be GREAT!

JSV 01-30-2008 10:03 PM

This was a triumph, I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS! It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

It's been a while since I did such delicate soldering job. I used the official Sandisk cable that came with my now defunct e270. Enzo used an aftermarket one, according to his pictures. The official connector seem smaller, less room to set the wires within, and the soldering tabs are shorter and quite fragile. But it works.

Just one correction: Pins 7, 8 and 9 didn't worked. No video or audio came out of these. You must use pins 14, 27 and 28 if you want to build an a/v cable for your Sansa View.

crackmonkey421 02-09-2008 01:53 PM

I made a video cable using pins 14, 27, and 28. Works perfectly.

Now..
I have a car charger and I use a mini stereo cable in my car for the audio--two cords need to be hooked up to listen and charge. I would like to make it so only one cord needs to be hooked up. For regular stereo audio should I use pins 8 and 9 or 27 and 28? I'll check for continuity between the regular headphone jack and those pins before I do anything.. just wondering why there are two pairs of pins

Thanks

Donalduck 02-12-2008 04:28 AM

So I've an Chinch-cable and the Connector-cable to my Sansa.
Can you please tell me which of the cables(?) in the Chinch-cable I have to connect to which pin? :confused:
Thank you very much,
best wishes from Germany!


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