No Zune Phone But Zune Touch Soon
SFGate recently interviewed Robbie Bach. This is the guy in charge of the Xbox, Zune, and Windows Mobile- all of those ultra competitive consumer devices. In this interview the question of whether or not we would see a Zune phone was brought up.
At first Robbie touts the fact that Windows Mobile devices will continue to outsell the iPhone and the Blackberry. But then he goes on to state that, “We don't make phones ourselves. We don't have any plans to make phones ourselves.” He goes on to explain that Windows Mobile is currently in the position to take advantage of their belief that, “…a phone is a very personal thing. Different people want different types of phones.”
While this rules out the possibility of a Zune branded phone, it may not rule out the Zune as a piece of software or service on a windows mobile device. When discussing the MP3 player market Robbie goes on to state that Microsoft has a broader goal not just including hardware but also software and services. He states that, “…software and services, at least in theory, can be used on a lot of different types of devices.” This I think is a ways off, but it does show the future of the Zune brand.
So what did he have to say about the Zune “Touch”?
While Robbie does not directly confirm the Zune touch he confirms it in a side step media interview way, allowing a proper unveiling when they are ready to officially announce it. “Take the device independent for a second and just assume that over time where there's a screen, touch will be part of it. It's not going to matter what the product line is. You're going to see it be a cornerstone of the work we do.” So it’s a statement of inevitability, almost as if you were to ask, “Are computers going to get faster?”. So when can you expect a touch screen Zune? Likely, right around the corner.















Comments
Beeman on June 8, 2008 4:39 PM
zune touch! wow I'm still waiting for the Cowon D3
Hypnorino on June 8, 2008 5:31 PM
Is that a mock-up?
Sam on June 8, 2008 7:35 PM
Amazing!
WestCoastPerspective on June 8, 2008 8:00 PM
Zune Touch, huh? Cool! I've always wanted to have a portable touch-sensitive device upon which to gaze at a beautifully-rendered, ultra-sharp BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH. Finally, us Zune owners will be able to lock up in style.
lightsout565 on June 8, 2008 8:10 PM
i hope they up the screen resolution from 320x240. Do you think it'll be flash or hard drive?
nywytboy68 on June 8, 2008 9:06 PM
Good article but it only confirms 1 thing - with all the good choices coming available as of late will this just add to the confusion? And , even though MS is trying to stay competitive, will they FINALLY give the features and battery life consumers has come to expect from their devices? Custom EQ, 30-40 steps to keep volume more precise, a simple CLOCK!!! well, here's to wishful thinking. They ARE heading in the right direction - the inception of games and the 2.5 update prove it.
Eric on June 8, 2008 11:07 PM
maybe they'll put worhtwhile codecs on it....
hahaha...sometimes i say crazy things
Mike on June 9, 2008 12:21 AM
That looks like a really neat concept...I personally can't stand touch screens...but I can't wait till Friday..Zune is coming to Canada finally.
neonix on June 9, 2008 3:16 AM
Wondering how much storage they'll put in. Fash or HD.. hmmm... Also curious to see how much they rip off Apple..
Tim on June 9, 2008 6:07 AM
@ Neonix:
"...how much they rip off Apple..."
Why do you say that?
Are you an Apple fanboy or something? Are you the type of person who thinks that every touch screen mp3 player that comes out later then the ipod touch is a ipod rip off?
nywytboy68 on June 9, 2008 8:06 AM
@noenix: The TWIST interface is too sweet to even BOTHER to rip off Apple. When are some people going to realize that there's a complete WORLD outside the ipod franchise!!!
madve2 on June 9, 2008 12:31 PM
@nywytboy68: Well, it's sad to say, but every time I think of buying a successor to my Sony NW-HD5 (I have been doing this for almost a year) and start browsing the internet "what has the market got for me today?" I alway have to find out that there are sadly few devices over, say, 80 GB (while having a reasonable size and price); because it needs HDD, not flash. Even Creative abandoned HDD so what's left? The Zune 80 and the iPod Classic (and some big and expensive Archos bricks I don't feel to care about). And iPod has double the size. My point is: not only marketing makes iPod that successful... unbelivably they also seem to know better what the customers need.
madve2 on June 9, 2008 12:35 PM
(I mean, don't get me wrong, not every iPod product "knows better" what the customers need, but Apple strangely manages to meet some demands no other company does)
Machiventa on June 9, 2008 2:32 PM
enzo - is that a mock-up device or an early proto-type?
nywytboy68 on June 9, 2008 2:43 PM
@madve2: I OWN a few ipods (my wife uses 1, my 20yo son, my sis-in-law)so what is the point of your retort? Read what I said: "The TWIST interface is too sweet to even BOTHER to rip off Apple. When are some people going to realize that there's a complete WORLD outside the ipod franchise!!!". What does THAT have to do with the fact that I'm stating there's other products BESIDES the ipod. I'm making the point that MS has a unique UI and that there are OTHER players out there, that Apple is not the only product on the market, that MS doesn't NEED to rip off the ipod interface (which, is actually OWNED by Creative ;-0). If you believe yourself that they know what the customers "NEED" then why did you stoop so low to have purchased a Sony product? It IS inferior, is it not? since it's not an ipod, and they DO know better, why did you not succumb to the all knowing and ALL SEEING Apple?
I am not trying to insult you or start a flame war - I'm just wondering where you are coming from if you don't have an ipod yourself, thats all.
madve2 on June 9, 2008 4:03 PM
@nywytboy68: I'm sorry if you felt my comment a retort, I didn't want to be insulting nor did I want to praise Apple or anything. You are right, I bought a Sony product back then, and I still like it: it has very good sound quality and battery life, it's compact and blah blah blah AND it's capacity is 20GB! Even iPods didn't have much more back then (there was a 40GB version, but it was very expensive, to my recollection).
But that's exactly what I'm talking about: I wanted an MP3 player, I had certain needs, and I there were plenty of players to choose from. In 2008, 3 years later, I want an MP3 player, I have certain needs AND I have to choose from Zune and iPod... now why don't the other companies "dare" to release their HDD players too (especially Creative with such a great - but sadly old - player like the Vision:M), that's a big misery for me. I didn't mean to say any of the players I mentioned are better or worse -- I obviously have several reasons to not want to buy an iPod (I don't like it's UI, for example =)), but I didn't want to talk about that -- only about the choice itself. I wanted to comment on the current product palette: that's one thing that Apple done right.
Hope I was clearer this time, sorry for my previous "attempt" =)
helpme123 on June 9, 2008 4:52 PM
this is awesome!
cheapkid on June 9, 2008 5:22 PM
How long will we have to wait?
WestCoastPerspective on June 10, 2008 12:58 AM
How does 2012 sound?
Flavio on June 10, 2008 9:05 PM
did you guys have it in hands?
nywytboy68 on June 11, 2008 7:41 AM
Damn you Enzo,............ my life will never be the same now that I know it a FAKE!!! Gotta' love a good 1 though :-0!!!
Rabbit on June 12, 2008 9:27 PM
wow a zune touch huh sounds great but it copies Apple by far lol. how about something Apple doesnt have now that would be even better. well it sounds like a great idea and all and would make zune a little better considerning the zune 30 isnt really muck. i own one and there ok i wish i would have gotten a zune 80 for the touch pad cus clicking buttons sucks lol but its all good. hope this works out. also when is this ganna happen??? keep us zune holders updated. also the zune 30 originals need more stuff not much you can do with them ya know lol thx peace.
Quilly G on June 16, 2008 10:37 PM
that Zune iz Dope i would literally throw my 30 iPod away for that betta yet i would make one of those video where i would be tossin my ipod towards things such as the yellow lines in the street and watching it get run ova numerously
Stefan on June 17, 2008 7:06 PM
I'd love to see a Zune product do something outside the iPod Touch specs. Maybe a hard drive based player... I'm not sure but I am sure that simply rehashing the iPod models will not move the brand ahead.
scotty on June 17, 2008 7:55 PM
Looks AMAZING I LOVE THE ZUNE :D:D I CANT WAIT i really hope they add a web browser!
Quilly G on June 18, 2008 8:12 PM
this would be hot but they would have to stay away from an 8gig version they should make a 30gig and a 60gig web browser that you can listen to music while using or you can listen to music on things such as a myspace page or imeem
If they made this Zune just like how i explained they will take most of apples customers
if i was to come up with a price it would be 259.99 for the 30gig and 359.99 for 60gig
thats pretty nice seein how an 8gig ipod touch iz 259.99
aa on June 19, 2008 3:17 AM
zune=crap
Previous zune suck so this one too .Touch pad won't change a thing.
cant play divx,xvid,mpeg files
media require conversion.Big hdd is nice that is the only one good thing about zune.
I stick with cowon and creative products.
thewindsurfguy on June 25, 2008 1:07 PM
This looks pretty cool...but to the people wondering if its HD or flash...i highly doubt they could fit a hard drive into a player that thin...i could be wrong but i'm just saying...
Gnathonic on June 29, 2008 4:11 PM
I can hardly see MS making the same mistake that Apple made with the ipod (I hate saying that name) "Touch. The thing is obviously a movie player why did they not make it with the memory needed to hold movies. It was hardly big enough to hold ones music collection. I don't expect the Zune "Touch" to be made w/o a hard drive version... they may make a flash but I'd like to say that they will not. It is designed with the screen in mind and thus encourages it's use as a movie device. It should have the capacity to hold more than 10 movies (unlike its competitor).
*movies are assumed to be 2 hour films encoded such that they look good but are not bloated.
Cylon Jason on July 1, 2008 3:04 AM
“We don't make phones ourselves. We don't have any plans to make phones ourselves.” Does this mean that a Zune phone is out of the question? They themselves don't make and do not have any plans to make a phone, but this doesn't mean someone can't make the phone for them. Apple does not "make" the iphone.
Sounds like the door is open for a Zunephone if you ask me.
danny on July 3, 2008 1:10 PM
Wow that look so cool but it better have cool Thing on it like to get on web and some neat thing like ipod touch
Ron on July 9, 2008 9:54 PM
howd u get those pics? but if it has actual Wi-Fi then its min cause i loved the zune 80 gig and if tis has the same quality then it will be a good mp3 player.....
T045T on July 21, 2008 4:12 AM
Wow, now the only thing that's missing is to sell them in Europe...
I bought a Toshiba Gigabeat S60 about 18 months ago, which is basically the Zune 30 minus Wifi and MS branding, a 60GB hard drive and cheaper, and I'm still happy with it, but I find myself drooling over the new Zunes every time I see them.
It's just unbelievable how smooth that interface is - Out of the players I've seen, only the iPods come close, but then they don't have the tactile buttons for when you need them. And the Zune Originals are just amazing...
Anyway, if they did make an HDD-based Zune "touch" (that's very likely not what they're gonna call it if they have any sense), honestly, I'd be all over it.
But I wouldn't really hold my breath for any kind of web browser unless they somehow manage to tie in Opera. I mean, have you tried using IE mobile?
Shane on July 21, 2008 4:11 PM
Dude, Fuck apple, fuck The "iPod"
apple has NEVER put anything good out, and dont you Steve Job Ball suckers say"What about the Macbook Air!?!?!"
That sucks ass to, the thing is to damn flimsy!!! Plus its a fuckin Mac, Those suck within themselves,
Microsoft is Beast, Zune Upped that, And they will continue to outdo their competitors.
Matt on July 23, 2008 9:06 PM
Yea seriously fuck apple they are nothing special at all.I have an ipod and its like my 8th one ive gotten them all before the first gen Zune but now im looking for a new mp3 player and the Zune is deff it.ipods are trashy and scratch 10 minutes after you take them out of the box.Im no Microsoft fan boy(typing this on ubuntu linux right now lol) but they have went to another world with the Zune it seriouslly is kick ass stuff. All you apple fan boys out there need to stfu saying how every company besides apple that had hardware that has a touch screen and plays music stole there idea from apple..seriouslly apple made the iphone does that mean they stole the fcking idea of the phone?exactly...check out the url...anything but ipod haha..also at least the zune allows firm updates SO YOU CAN HAVE THE LATEST SOFTWARE...i dont see apple doing that with 1 year pre coverflow ipods..cover flow is crap anyway zune twist interface blows it out of the water.im not trying to start a forum war here but geesh bro's..when this touch zune come out my money says it will be less then the ipod touch cause every zune has been less then the ipod...apple needs some more competion..so all i have to say is fck apple.and eh to microsoft start building a better OS..lol...and yea i know there are some kinks that need worked out but lets compare first gen zune to first gen video ipod.....exactly...im deff pre ordering one of the next gen zunes...good mockup btw
:] just my two cents
NiKO M. on August 8, 2008 12:20 AM
i REALLY DONT APPRiCHiATE PEOPLE SAYiNG "iF ZUNE DOES COME OUT W/ A TOUCH MP3, THATZ A APPLE iPOD TOUCH COPY." NO THATZ A FiB, ACCUALLY SAMSUNG WAZ THE FiRST COMPANY TO iNVENT ANY MP3 PLAYER "TOUCH" iT CAME OUT iN THE LATE 2005, BEFORE THAT THEY HAD HEWLETT-PACKERD TOUCH SCREEN COMPUTERS iN 2000. AT THE MOMENT i OWN A REALLY OLD EMAC APPLE COMPUTER, && PERSONALLY i PREFER ANYTHiNG WiNDOWS. BECAUSE THE OCONOMY, iZ SO BAD, i DONT HAVE TiME TO SPEND AN ARM && A LEG FOR AN iPOD TOUCH THAT WONT LAST ME 4-YEARS. i OWN A ZUNE 30, && i GOT MiNE FALL OF 2007. iM VERY HAPPY WiTH MY ZUNE. iT JUSS TURNED 1-YEAR-OLD, BUT iF ZUNE DOES COME OUT WiTH A TOUCH MP3 PLAYER, BEiLIVE ME i WiLL UPGRADE!
Maltmix on October 2, 2008 11:21 AM
Sup yall, Yea def this thread is mad funny with ipod hipster kids wanting so bad to start ish- all it's talking about is a new release of zune hardware, pretty funny to me people hate so damn bad lol.
Anyway I just picked up the 120gb zune and love it a big up from the 80, for the SAME Price too- actually exchanged my 80 which I was loving at best buy cause I got a prp when i got my 80 last summer so win win for sure. I've used ipod and after using my zune I'm not going back.
Peace
gabe on October 6, 2008 9:27 PM
Can't wait to get the iPod touch!
Rebekah on October 6, 2008 10:27 PM
When are these coming out?
Liberty on October 8, 2008 12:37 AM
this is awesome, and who cares if they rip off Apple, as long as it isn't an iPod I couldn't care less. btw, if it isn't even announced yet how did you get pics of it?
trauco on October 23, 2008 9:38 AM
can`t wait to get a zune touch.
carlitos on November 7, 2008 11:13 PM
so what if they copy apple?? i mean, what else can you make up other then a touch screen mp3 player.... a THINK mp3 player?? yeah, you can connect it to your brain and whatever you are thinking, thats what it will do... cmon, this freaking kicks ass... and i will definitely be getting one of these if they really come out, haha.
Elen on November 20, 2008 4:08 PM
Well, something better than just a touch-screen would be to implement it along the current pad and buttons of the Zune. We all know some people, including myself, would hate a complete touch-screen device.
marcus on December 11, 2008 5:45 PM
This is wrong. There will b a zune phone it will be announced on January 8
camon on December 11, 2008 8:44 PM
i really hope the microsoft makes the ight desision in designing the new 3rd generation
Sgt PackMan on December 15, 2008 10:31 PM
hey aa ur soo dumb zunes are the next Ipod only there not incredibly gay!
Booberfest aka. BBRFST on December 15, 2008 11:47 PM
I think it's step in the right direction, if they don't fall on there face and not come out with it. They need to innovate more and try new off the beaten path things. Always playing it safe won't get you to the top, come on Microsoft. you have a decent start now just kick it up a notch.
Barnsey on December 16, 2008 12:57 PM
Seriously apple fanboi's, the only apple copies i see the the china counterfeit's and u can't say the meizu m8 cos it ain't.
The only reason ipod sales r higher than zune sales is cos ipod's r available worldwide, zune's aren't.
Let's mark things the zune got before ipod's, decent sized 16:9 display, wifi, 120gb iirc the list goes on
Nadia on December 21, 2008 4:05 PM
I hope it's real, but why is it that your site is the only one with that pic? I mean others do too, but it always has your tag.
But we do have a clue if MS is making a zune touch, it's seems like they are going to make one, from Bach's interview. So we know that there probably be one, we just don't know if that pic is the real thing, lol. But I got a feeling that it is coming soon!! :D
kafam on December 22, 2008 5:48 PM
well it sounds amazing! this year i couldn't decide between the 130 zune and the itouch, and this sounds like a perfect solution (if it is infact true). my problem was the zune had radio more memory,the zune pass option, and less expensive... but the itouch had a larger screen, has more usefull applications, probably has more music options... and just looked nicer. I pretty much gave up on the decision, but if this is true it seems like the perfect option!
B.B. on December 28, 2008 4:36 PM
Whoa! hold the phone i dont get it where did you get those photos did you make them because i own 3 zunes, 4, 8 and 120gb. together you could mix an iphone with that picture its really cool and i hope microsoft does come out with a zune touch and i hope it looks and is way better than an ipod anything.
peter on January 4, 2009 2:31 AM
its a fake. Notice the slight curve on the left side of it.
It does look tight though.
peter on January 4, 2009 2:32 AM
yeah its just the top of a zune mirrored
A.I. on January 4, 2009 3:50 PM
Ya a touch zune would be sweet, but am I the only one who thinks products such as the ipod touch is straying way to far away from a basic "mp3 player" idea? I mean yes zune has to keep up and compete with apple since that is their goal, but I think if Zune kept their players how they were and just kept adding new functions in the new software pakages, zune would overcome apple by a long shot. How i see it is that why should zune make a touch mp3 player, in which to compete with apple, when zune has the ideas and technology to beat apple with basic software updates to their current players.I think downloadable games and music right to your mp3 player is a good idea, but whats the point of an internet browser on an mp3 player when you can go to your computer and do the same thing with better quality and function. Call me old fashioned, but i think zune is right where it wants to be and will continue to make changes to their software without having to build whole new models like ipod.
peter on January 6, 2009 1:44 AM
dude...have you played with an ipod touch? there amazing! and apple is amazing for making it . therefore if msoft made a touch zune everyone would buy one and then everyone will have a zune and ipods will DIE.
Fleminator on January 10, 2009 1:12 AM
They need to make this more like a pda. Let it run Windows Mobile and run the zune software on top of that. That way it could use that fancy hardware for things other than just playing music.
Bayernviggen on January 12, 2009 4:23 PM
its rediculous hearing these kids saying ipods are good when thats the only thing theyve owned. i had 3 80gb ipods in one year (thank god for best buy giving me that shitty ass plan that helped me 1 out of the three) before i went with a new 80gb zune and still the zune is the best thing technologically i have bought. i know two apple store managers that have zunes, and most people have said that if you like accessories=ipod, you want a great mp3 player and risk accessories = zune. and apple really hasnt come out with anything good. and the iphone! what a p.o.s. the only good thing was the macbook pro, but thats $3000. i have dropped my zune on pavement, snow, and water. turns right on. microsoft kicks ass, and i will be getting one of these :). apple kids....come out of your little ipod world, i finally did lol
ed on January 16, 2009 12:16 AM
Iv always dreamed of a zune touch...how much longer?...Hope that some day there will be an i pod "armaggeden" (:
Nikkk! on January 24, 2009 7:08 PM
I WANT THAT DEVICE NOW!!! I LOVE THE ZUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to know something else about this Zune, its specifications...
I ♥ ZUNE
☺
ub003 on January 30, 2009 2:31 PM
In case you iPlotters don't know, Apple did not invent the touch screen. Sorry to blow your egos. PDA's using Windows Moble have been out for some time now. Eventhough they used a stylist many times I just use my finger. As far as a Zune Phone is conserned...I have a HTC Windows Smartphone. It has 2Gb storage (I could up it to 8Gb). I have music, podcast, video and photos on it. I also have a bluetooth headset that I use listen to music with. MicroSoft is right not to comeout with a "Zune" phone. They already exist.
Bob Smith on January 31, 2009 6:55 PM
cool! can't w8. But, I would really like something like virtual dj on it. that would be great. If you don't know what that is, download it.
Kenny on February 9, 2009 12:36 AM
I think they both have ups and downs. Apple obviously wins the size comp, However Zune wins the space competitions. Apple for efficiency, and i say this because my Zune never plays a song completely with out freezing. This might even the odds(if it is actually that cool).
Leyus on February 10, 2009 7:28 PM
I don't know. I am a hardcore Zune fan. I would love to have a touchscreen Zune. I actually really like touchscreens (if they work well, which all new ones seem to do), and I'm used to using the one on my phone. I've got an 80g Zune. My boyfriend actually just got a failTouch (I thought about breaking up with him). But the thing is, if Zune sacrifices storage for features, I'm going to be horribly upset. I know the failTouch only holds like 8g or something. I can't deal with that, I have FAR more than that on my Zune.
John on February 20, 2009 8:32 PM
if it comes out we should get internet on it!!! SCREW U APPLE
Grant Grundy on February 27, 2009 11:40 AM
i like the idea...when it comes out im gonna get but 1 question how much is it going to cost...because i am willing to pay top dollar! $$$
{X-Thee.Org-X}
mike on March 7, 2009 6:34 PM
This will only be worth the buy if they change the menu screen. There's no point in getting it if it is the exact same as a normal 120gb soon but just touch. What i am trying to say is that they should change the menu style around or how you view the menu. Cause if they do not change a thing, it will be like having a normal zune but you get to touch it instead.
Neil Seth on March 8, 2009 2:39 PM
Im soooooo impatient, want zune touch. Unless tht touch is really bad, im really ecxited. I Want to be ablt to get games though like the apple, I just want it to be better. Thats it.
N. Frazer on March 28, 2009 10:00 PM
i love zune cause i hate apple simple as that and when i came across this website i just had to cheack it out then i see an ipod advertisement on it wow,wow
T PENNINGS on April 2, 2009 1:04 AM
ZUNE-TASTIC!!
A.Darmos on April 5, 2009 9:35 PM
HURRAY FOR ZUNE!!!! -well I'm excited-
stone collins on April 28, 2009 8:21 PM
when are they coming out for anyone to buy... id like to have one
funny boy on May 2, 2009 3:09 PM
I hope this will be better then itouch those things suck when do they come out adn hoe many gb is it going to be, they like cool so far can't whate to get one zune is the best, come pared to ipod's
ju on May 7, 2009 3:32 PM
you guys need to make the zune phone for all service not just T-mobile or just add it to verizion
rosie on June 3, 2009 10:59 PM
ok...
when is it comming out and how much it will cost an at course where do i can get it?
Alex on June 8, 2009 11:46 PM
Thank God. It's about time Microsoft gives Apple some real competition. I will have this the day it is released. And show all the iTouch users that my new toy is cooler than theirs. Then I wonder how long it'll be before Apple comes out with a holographic iTouch with - wait for it - a built in microwave. Seriously, will it ever end?
jarnold93 on June 12, 2009 4:01 PM
So when does it come out, and what features does it have? I own a second generation ipod touch, and apple's starting to piss me off (i.e. trying to get me to pay $10 for a firmware upgrade, when iphone owners get it free). I'm going to sell my itouch and either get this or the new psp that comes out this fall. I'd like the zune touchscreen to have an internet browser, play videos, music (obviously lol), and have games on it, like the ipod i own now does.
Thomas on June 23, 2009 3:52 PM
sounds like iPod Touch
alan on June 30, 2009 5:20 PM
microsoft always tries to be better than apple
but apple beat the zune touch with there ipod touch with all those kool apps and stuff
unless zune comes out with a camera and other kool stuff on there device
user5125251 on July 21, 2009 6:45 AM
I don't get overall what is that all BOOM about.
Touch screens were used for years now.
From Pockets, to Tablets
Don't get that boom about touch media players =\
niso67 on August 12, 2009 3:37 PM
Ipod touches are better :-(
Izzy on August 13, 2009 12:22 AM
when does it come out in the U.S.?
shooootgurl. on August 16, 2009 12:46 PM
ipodipodipod
jennifer on September 13, 2009 9:47 PM
it is no longer called "zune touch" it is the one and only Zune HD!!! and i pre-ordered miness!! cant wait it comes out tuesday!
Jake on October 19, 2009 5:36 PM
This is a complete copy of the iPod Touch. If you say "So what about apple," well, without apple, you guys wouldn't have had any of your Zunes you love so much. Zune is a complete copy of just about every product apple made. iPods have much better quality, looks, and overall performance. I would definately recommend iPods over Zunes. The people down at apple invented excellent music players, and no way will Zune win the competition.