That's dapreview, not dapreivew ;)

I think Creative is basically updating some of their older lines rather than getting rid of them. the form factor of the original Neeon was closer to the Nano and others than the rounder Zen V. People will complain of the similairities between the two, as well as the controls for this player but I have a good feeling this one will be popular. It has better battery life as well in comparison. Finally, UMS support is a big plus.

I do not understand why the dap business do the things they do. This sounds like bad marketing, because it seems like creative is giving consumers too much of the same thing to choose from... from an already oversaturated dap market. This is basically the zen v except better with different-better interface and -looks.

Also, can anyone explain to me why iriver disables the FM tuner for the CLIX wireless cradle? Thank You

Yeah its a crying shame that creative is run by monkeys, because thier products are great.

They REALLY need to axe alot of thier old players

Gizmodo lists it for more, as in more expensive, than the comparable capacity Nanos. Good deal if you want FM and recording, I guess.

Gizmodo is a misprint, they listed Singapore dollars. It is indeed less than the nano.

Correct! The S$309 is actually US$199, so a 4gb model is cheaper by $49 than the similar Nano.

You forgot about UMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is not mention of UMS on Creative's site and it says that Windows XP is required. I highly doubt that creative has implimented UMS on this player. Any mentions of UMS are probably referring to the UMS storage capability not UMS music.

This player seems to be just what I've been looking for; can't wait for a review on it.

From the features page... http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=15609&nav=0

" Easy transfer
Simply drag and drop your data files between ZEN Neeon 2 and your computer. No complicated or messy driver installations necessary."

Happy Dance!
The "windows required" probably refers to the encoding required for the avi files.

It even has line-in recording!

Enzo, a few reasons why I'm guessing it's UMS and mentioned it that way at Dapreview and epiZENter

1.)

For the Zen V Plus it says:
Mass Storage Device: Yes. For data files only

For the Neeon 2 it says:

Mass Storage Device: Yes

Now when you choose to do a a comparison of the two at Creative this is what you get:

Storage Media:

1.) Flash Drive (for Neeon 2)
2.) Yes. For data files only (for Zen V Plus)

Wouldn't "Flash Drive" indicate the fact that its MSC?

2.) The player does not say it supports WMA Protected files (aka DRM files). Wouldn't an MTP player have no difficult playing these? I know with UMS players it can be a little more difficult.

3.) The Zen Neeon line was a UMS player

4.) If this is directed towards an Asian market, it most likely is UMS/MSC. They definitely prefer those to MTP devices.

This evidence isn't certifiable beyond a reasonable doubt, but I'd say the fact that tehy said Flash drive for one and not the other is a good indication of that. . What do you think? I'll be contacting Creative and seeing what they say

@michael

I think you could be right... Those do look like good indications that the neeon 2 is UMS. I have my fingers crossed. I hope that this is the beginning of a trend for Creative because that is usually my only complaint about thier players. Thanks for the info.

Ok, I just got a reply from Edvarcl Heng over at CNet Asia and this is what he said:

My preview was conducted with an engineering unit of the Zen Neeon 2. Based on my experience with it, the prototype unit is an UMS device. However, it may not be the case with the final retail unit. I have emailed Creative and will get back to you once I have the answer.

Does anyone know whether the Neeon 2 will allow users to skip to a particular letter? Cos' its really irritating to have to scroll through dozens of songs to get to the song I want. It'd be great if I could just select "L" and all the songs beginning with L showed up.

Joel, that's why folders were created! ;-)

Re: Erik Persson

>"" Easy transfer
>Simply drag and drop your data files between ZEN Neeon 2 and your >computer. No complicated or messy driver installations necessary."

Their website says the same thing about the ZEN V, too, but the ZEN V is MTP, not UMS.

can anybody tell me if there is A-B repeat mode? It anables to repeat a selected part of the track. Pretty useful for musicians...
Many thanx

what.is.ums?

Eagles exasperate Cowboys on Xmas..

the 1gb is going to be selling for $125 us, and i am goign to get it no matter what. creative has eaten apple's nano. when will it come out in the us, do you think?

Hi I just buyed this mp3 player and I really don't want to syc any songs and I really don't want to use windows media player or install the disk that came with the player is there anyway I can just explore it?

Hi guys,
Neeon2 voice recording. Can it record in stereo?
Thanks,
Uday Shivamurthy

I bought this a few months ago and I do most of my recording jobs on this tiny player.

On the mic it records in stereo but saves it in WAV
but only at 32 kbps in 8 Khz.
Not much but good for voice recording.

On the Line-in recording it saves it WMA
but there is an option for 64, 80, 96, 128 kbps.
great for plugging it in a mixer.

Sorry no A-B mode
only Normal, repeat track, repeat all, shuffle, shuffle repeat, Track once.

I highly recommend it.

Cons: DRM and prone to scratches.

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HELPP!! i think i deleted the "PHOTOS" file, then i made a new folder and put my pictures in. BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW UPP! wad can i dooo??? ):