Thanks, I added this over at epiZENter.net. The Cowon A2 a/v cable also works. Also cables for Canon cameras like the SD450 work, but you have to pull out the connector one click.

I just wanted to say that if you're using a regular Video Camcorder Cable, all you have to do is just plug the Red Audio into the Video Jack (for composite cables only...), and the yello (video) into the Red (audio) input. The 3 cables and connectors on a standard video (camcorder) cable should all be identical 75-ohm cable, just the housing on the connector is a different color. If you ignore this, you can use a standard cable from a place such as monoprice.com on the cheap, and not have to go hunting around and paying an absurd amount for a specific cable.

Ross: That is completely untrue. The common grounds are different on the Zen Vision:M cable compared to the standard "camcorder cable". You cannot simply switch the cables. The ONLY way to get a camcorder cable to properly work with the vision M is to cut it up.

I have a question on this matter... I bought a video adapter cable on ebay. It was advertised as being specifically for the Zen Vision:M

When I tried it, the video output was scrabbled. Any idea what's wrong there???

The scrambled thing sound like you should pull the 3.5" plug one click from the connector, it should work.

Troy, you got ripped off. They sold you a standard camcorder cable. You can pull it out a notch as Michael suggests but you are essentually loosing your left audio cannel.

thanks for the heads up... luckily it was only a couple bucks. So worth playing with & resplicing, aye???

Ross is right. I have a Vision M, use a standard cable and it works fine.

If you have a cable that has pinouts of "right", "ground", "video", "left", then this is the most commonly found cable in the United States. It is what most companies call a "camcorder cable". This is what i am calling a "standard" cable. Rodney if yours works it is not a "standard camcorder cable" with the same pinouts listed above.

If the ground is NOT in position 1, then the cable cannot be made to work unless you cut it up or pull it out "one click", putting the ground in position 1. The ground pinout is present on all three RCA cables as the outer shield. The center polls on the RCA cables handle the left, right, and video signals.

I tried it last night, pulled out one click - very nice.

I had emailed the guy I bought from, he said that he "found out 'they' changed it, and is getting a shipment of the new cables in next week". I emailed him back asking if he plans to replace the ones purchased and he agreed. He directed me to send back the one he had sent me, so I'll be all good soon. In the meantime I have the one that came with my camcorder, heehhee...

I stand corrected, the cable I bought on ebay as a standard camcorder cable has #1 as the ground and #2 and #3 swiched. Guess I got lucky. The description said it was

"compatible with most MiniDV and Digital8 camcorders made by Sony, Canon, JVC, Samsung, Panasonic and Sharp. It also works with many Hi8 camcorders and Sony Cybershot/Mavica digital cameras."

Any advice for splicing and soldering? Since even the local apple store does not have the iBook cable in stock, I figured I'd buy a camcorder cable from Radio Shack and try to "fix" it (if I can find my old soldering iron). Appreciate nay help!

I am getting a Creative within two weeks. Is it possible to plug it into a TV and have it broadcast the video signal to the TV? I wanna say that's what this article is about, but I just want to know if I need anything else. E-mail please!

Zen Vision M has just reached our shores this month and most if not all accessories are not yet available. My question is: Can you use the 30G iPods A/V cable with Zen Vision M? Thanks.

JP
Manila, Philippines

If you read the article you would know the answer.

I found this post a bit late. I've spent all day being angry with my ZVM because my AV just wouldn't work. Then i find this site discussing how there are different cables and so I inspect my box, to see it's designed for an IPod Photo/Video. Oh well, at least the chick at dick smiths will be pleased to know why it wouldn't work.

I bought the iBook cable starting with the hyperlink on this page, but the cable doesn't appear to work. I get sound but no picture. I tried a 'one-click' backout, too, but then I lost the sound, too....

Is there some special requirement about when you 'boot up' the ZVM and perform the cable connection or something (is there a specific order to these events that is required)? Or does someone have a different suggestion? (If not, maybe that hyperlink & suggestion should be removed from this page?)

Last comment: THANK YOU for this website. I go here a lot and greatly appreciate your work!!!!

Tony, If you're getting sound but no picture, you are probably plugging in through the headphone jack instead of the A/V Out Jack which is on the bottom right of the dock adapter for the ZVM. Make sure you connect it properly and try again.

So going through monoprice.com such as Ross says and ordering a A/V Composite connector for camcorder (3.5mm to 3RCA) and this will worK?
Thanks for any help on this post

No it will not work.

So will the cable from Cowon work?

I wasn't sure if it had been disputed not to work.

Daines1

Omar, you are right! I would not have expected that the video connection would be different from the audio one. Once I used the dongle, my video (and audio) all worked fine.

Thank you for your 'contribution'.

The Cowon cable and the iBook cable both work with the ZVM!

I totally forgot about this feature after reading the manual, of course I though 'why the hell would a usual a/v cable not work' but it wasnt important at the time. Anyway I found this http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4684/avcable228dj.jpg and pulling it out a click made it work fine on my room tv.

Ohh yeah, im not sure about the left channel being lost as my room tv has only one speaker.

Hey thanks for the pinout images. I bought a non generic ipod cable from dick smiths for $18au. I knew that i had to cut it up but did not realise it was diffirent from the camcorder cable and low and behold it worked but the screen had vertical lines through it. So, i'll re-wire it going by the ipod specs as above...

Ty

Hey, If I use the Apple iBook cable for my Vision: M will there be any difference than using the Creative AV cable? Will there be any loss of video or audio? Have any of you guys used the iBook calbe and have you seen a difference?
thanks

The A/V cable that comes with the Archos Gmini works too, 'cause I use my roommate's for my Zen Vision: M

I am going to buy a regular 3.5mm av cable. How do I simply pull out the ground to make it work.

This diagram is for a normal camcorder cable, very helpful,
Link for a Re-wiring diagram for the Camcorder cables!!!>>>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/mabrandt5/ZVMrewiringguide.jpg

Virtually Any 3.5mm-to-3RCA's that you buy from electrical stores for like $5-$10 is generally a stock standard camcorder cable. let's say that you can only buy a non generic ipod cable then go by the picture up the top of the page for re-wiring an ipod cable like i did!
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Ive allready re-wired an ipod cable as above(non-generic) and a normal cable(camcorder) and they work how they are supposed to. You may get a very very very faint distortion in your tv with these modded cables. Mine distort just a fraction but that don't bother me cos u can hardly even tell, plus there only like 700mb torrent videos anyhow.
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I just finished wiring the cables into the head unit(stereo)and to my LCD screen in my car, and it works perfectlly!!!
Good luck soz about long post but hope it helps.

Thanks Will for the fast response. This will help me a lot when I mod the wire.

John,
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if you get a regular av cable and you don't want to cut it up then i suggest you only get the one 2 RCA's, the LEFT(white) and the RIGHT(red).
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Plug the red one into the video socket of your tv and the white one into any of the audio sockets.
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THen all you do is pull the 3.5mm jack out of the ZenVM by about 2-3mm, you will only get mono sound being that one of the RCA's is for video and the other is for audio, but you do get a really good picture.

Ive got one of these also, it only cost me $4AU

Hi, I have Creative Zen Vision M and yesterday somehow screen frozen, didn't respond to anything. I tried to reset it but stupid me I tried microphone hole :) After couple of try I realized "real" reset hole but now I'm worried about microphone. I tested it and functioning well but What possibly caused my stupidity? Any idea...? Don't laugh by the way...

Don't worry volkan, it should be fine. As for putting it in the Mike hole in the first place, well what can i say! Go and get some sleep man.

Don't worry volkan, it should be fine. As for putting it in the Mike hole in the first place, well what can i say! Go and get some sleep man.
Theres a good ZenVM "forum" at
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http://forums.creative.com/

I also was looking for an AV cable and found this thread very helpful. I don't know quite too much about cables and electronics, but I found a simple and cheap solution at the dollar store with the help of Will's post. I would have gotten the cable that has just audio and video but it was not available.

I bought two things. One was a 3.5 mm plug to RCA jacks (described as a 3.5 mm male plug split to two seperate female RCA jacks). The second was your standard audio video cable with three RCA plugs on each end.

I took them home (cost me about $3 since the second cable was $2) and followed Will's advice. I connected the cords together and plugged the mini plug into my Zen Vision, but I pulled it out about half a centimeter. It works perfectly fine since I'm not fussy about having mono sound.

Grace2,

The cable doesn't specifically have to have a (Yellow-VIDEO) RCA with it.

I'll assume you asked the shop keeper for a cable, and that one of the RCA's had to be (VIDEO!!!-Yellow) and the other RCA had to be (AUDIO-Red or White)

It doesn't matter, the yellow VIDEO RCA is made of exactly the same material as the 2 AUDIO RCA's(white)-(red) but there just diffirent colours, that's all! Although, one of my VIDEO RCA's did have a single thick copper strand, but it didn't matter cos it was chopped and switched anyway's!

So, forget about the colours, jus't concentrate on the rewiring. As long as you have a 3.5mm cable to either (2) or (3) Male RCA's, you'll be fine.

Glad i could help, $2 is alot cheaper than the generic cable!

Anybody found a way to dismantle the docking station an invert order inside? Sounds scary but may be a also a solution.

Thanks for all the help on the a/v cable. Its not that I dont want to pay a reasonable price for an important accessory like the A/V cable, but here in Australia Creative Labs has been so absolutely miserable in customer support and retailer training, that you cant get these cables even if you want to pay the rip off prices. Went to JB HIFI, Dick Smith Electronics and found that they knew everything about I-Pod , but nothing about Creative Zen M. They sold me in both places a normal a/v cable, claiming it would work on the Zen M.
So modifying normal A/V cables are certainly the answer over here.

Yeah, i'm from Australia also and have come up against the same problems as ALEX. At this stage your best bet is to MOD a cable!!!

Dee:

I think the actual docking station is for the connection to your PC only.
I think you mean the little dongle thing that plugs into the bottom of the ZVM which in turn you can plug the video, charger and usb cable into! But i think you could certainly change the connections in the dongle if you knew what you were doing of course.

Too which, i have seen a website that dismantled one of these dongles and it also had pictures and how to do it also. And here is the link

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kikus/131356918/

We have added a Creative Forum. Join us for some help and discussion on this topic.

I just ordered the Cowon A2 A/V out cable, for 9.99 I believe. But as i proceeded to check out, i saw that the shipping was almost 8 dollars! So, even though this cable may look to be much cheaper, i still ended up charging 17.50 to the credit card.

Woohooh i finaly got my hands on a cable 2 days ago and an authentic leather case! Guys you can now purchase the ORIGINAL Creative zen vision m: cable in Australia for a very cheap price of $24.95Au, from believe it or not, Toys "R" us. To the best of my knowledge no other retail store has them except for Toys "R" us! And the leather protective case is about $50Au.

Creative must be listening to all of the complaints of theire Creative forum users about cost/availability etc.

Does anyone know how long the official zen vision: M cable is? This could be another argument against it. I want a cable that is at least 10 feet long.

I know exactly what u mean dixon! I had mine resting just on the coffee table cos the cord wasn't long enough. Another thing is that i want to get a wireless av transmitter ($90 AU) to send the video signal to other TV's through a wireless connection, but i'm not sure if it will do it because of creatives stupid cable! If you wan't 10 feet of cable then the official cable wont be long enough, You may beable to extend it with another adapter cord, but i don't know if the cable will conflict with creatives cable.

Anyone know where to buy a battery pack for the creative vision m? Any clue at all would be useful! je007c9914@blueyonder.co.uk.
Thanks
J

To the best of my knowledge they can be bought, but ive only seen them on Ebay, but do a google search for them. And you will need to read the Thread on this sight regarding the opening of the unit in order to replace a battery!!!

You can use a psp external charger that uses AA batterys or u can get the one that uses the psp charger to charge first then u have 2 batterys

Yeah i tried that dan but at one stage during charging, it seemed as though it was draining the ZEN battery instead of charging it!
Have you had this problem? If not, how long does it take you to charge the zen battery if it's nearly all drained, with the PSP AA charger?

Can we get a makeshift inline remote control from this? http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=13&subcategory=438&product=11211

Not sure, Try ebay for some foreign REMOTES for the zen vision M!
But from what ive searched so far, i don't think so.

DICK SMITH in Australia now have the original cable in stock for $24.95

Bought from Wal Mart (approximately $12.99 + tax) a Philips "Connect to TV" Portable DVD cable, model number DVDP01 (retractable to boot!).
Another link verifying that it works with the Vision:M is here.
Fun fun fun!

I have searched the Walmart site and the Web and cannot find the cable mentioned by Zak. Any ideas?

I'm thinking of getting a ZVM so I am just doing my homework on the net when I came across this article. I don't own a ZVM yet but I'm just wondering if it is possible to use a normal a/v cable (either 2 or 3 RCA jacks) and so the one-click back trick to get video and then use another audio cable (3.5mm to 2 RCA) and plug it to the headphone jack to get stereo sound? You will need two 2 different cables (and possibly a 3rd 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter) but it is still cheaper and plausible if you only require this setup once a while.

Genosyde,

The cable is $9. Save yourself some headaches and just buy the right cable!! The one click back trick is a terrible solution.

Genosyde,

You won't get good sound out of the Earphone jack! just go and buy the original cable, they are no where near as expensive as one first thought!

And the quality of the cable is second to none. Mind you, i don't like the big ferrite adapter that is on the end-but atleast you can take that off if you want.

got an extra itrip laying around?
i did and this is what i made

1 fm transmitter
1 wired remote

this is what i used for fm transmitter reference
http://badacetechshow.com/psp_itrip.htm

i used a usb car charger, a mint can and a 3-Pole 3.5mm head phone jack. works great.
for pins 5and7 i used 5v instead of the 3v.

this is what i used for remote reference
http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=18282&highlight=car+automobile+remote

use a 4-Pole 3.5mm head phone jack. i used the one thats in the itrip. its the resistance between pole 1 and 2 via the headphone jack not the dongle.

remote works with resistance between 1st and 2nd pole.
20k play/pause
30k radio toggle
50-60k FF/Next
62-90k REW/Prev
117k vol down
163k vol up

394k connected

try at your own risk and have fun

http://www.edigitech.de/shop/hama/ART_00014020.html

If you can get that, i think it should work(it works on archos AV 400). Don't know yet because i get my zen vision M next week JiiiiiiiHHHAAAA(I bought the cable today for 7€).

I have some recorded movies on my TV. This is a little off-topic but will I be able to put them onto my Zen.

Hi Satur09, would it possible to post full instructions on how to modify the iTrip and especially the remote for a ZVM on a proper thread? Thanks.

Michael - 5th April ; pull the cable one notch out :D ledgend man; got my cable to work. Thanks

i have a vision m and the screen is frozen i tryed turning off
but it wont work , then i tryed to reset it and that doesnt work
yes the reset button on the bottem not the the mic hole

what do i do? i tryed pluging it in to charge , the battery think blinks and i can hear the scroller clicking but its just frozen :[

I have an external battery pack for my psp (8000 m/a)with that I can play for 18 hours.

Is there an external batterypack available for the zen vision M out there? They do have it for the Ipod video, but why not for the ZVM????

I have a video cable for my zen Vision M But it doen't matter what i try my television it doesn't matter. I get the visuals on the screen and i also have the sound. But the visuals are in Black and White. Can somebody tell me how that is possible?? i tried it on 3 other tv's aswell and it is on all televisons black and white.

I have a 4 Pole 3.5mm connector that I need an adaptor to make into a 3 pole 2.5 mm connector. the tricky part is its a Avionic Plantronics headset with one sigle plug. I want to find an adaptor to turn it into two plugs so that I can plug it into my sound card on my PC and use it to send and recieve audio. to simplify 4 pole 3.5mm connector that needs adaptor two turn it into two cables each has a connector of a 3 pole 2.5mm. Not very simple I know but if any help or suggestions on where to look i would MUCH appreciate it.

For people splicing/dicing the a/v cables with ground/shield on any other connectors other than #1. Cut as close to the 3.5mm plug as possible to avoid noise and benefit from the shield.

To those who "pull the plug one click" out on standard camcorder cables you only get video and left audio channel. I prefer stereo!

Too bad you cannot buy a 4 poled 3.5mm plug and just solder some cables unto it! At least I couldn't find said item where I live not even on Farnell components!

I crosswired a 3 rca female jacks to 3 rca male jacks...
BUT:
I get audio noise in the left & right channels.. my solution works and the audio noise is similar to a sound card output on a computer so, no big deal.
Just wondering if this might have any long term affects on the zvm.. not too concerned with the tv as it is circa 1991. I suspect that the skinny rca wires cannot hold ground correctly (needs MORE SOLID COPPER) and would need to be spliced all the way back to the 3.5mm pole, thus defeating the purpose of an rca dongle (to not cut into the cable).

I may splurge for a zvm cable if I can get it shipped to my door for ~$11 or less.

Yeah, we hobbyists NEED 4-pole connectors.. probably not even something you can pick up at your local radioshack either :-(
(even if they had the connector, you'd pay about $8-10 just for that, ha!) At least the hobyists can hold out until there IS a good deal on cables _properly wired/grounded_

there is a layer or thick plastic that i just noticed on my creative zrn vision m does anyone know if i should take it off.... its not th e one where when you just get it how there is a thin layer.... Im not sure if its supposes to be there cuz its coming of and there a normal screen underneatyh but has normal plastic covering it that you cant take off.

I bought myself an original av cable but when i connect it to my tv i only get sound no video. I connected the cable to the dongle (not the headphones on top). I also set the video output to PAL (Belgium). Tried NTSC but doesn't work either.
I checked the pinning and they are as stated above.
Anyone any ideas?

Kevin,

(1) Make sure the yellow, male RCA plug is connected to the yellow video INPUT on your TV. (2) You might need to use your TV's remote control to select LINE1 (or something similiar) as the video input. (3) I would try another video device on your TV's input or try the Vision on another TV or plug it into your VCR's video input. (4) You said you checked the pinouts and they are the same, but if you pull the cable out 'one notch' from the sync adapter and you get video o/p then you have a standard camcorder cable. (5) Use a multimeter to check the cable integrity.

for those asking about external battery packs, i got one on ebay similar to this one http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Zen-Vision-Vision-M-Battery-Extender_W0QQitemZ330051225716QQihZ014QQcategoryZ86541QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
and I can definitely say it was worth the investment. I haven't completely tested it yet, but I've heard that it practically doubles your viewing/listening time (if the internal battery is fully charged too)

Steps to perfect a/v output with non proprietary cable...

1) You already know, plug cord in dongle, back out 1 segment,
2) ONLY connect the video out prong to tv (the yellow one in most cases)
3) Use standard 3.5mm to a stereo rca cable (red and white) and plug these into the same component input as the video.

viola, you have a rather clunky looking, but perfectly working video out for your ZV:M.... it's what i use.

Go on Ebay and buy the retractable A/V cable that hooks directly to the Zen Vision M connector WITHOUT THE DONGLE. Works like a charm.

I have a question. what is the folder TV on my ZVM for?

i mean can i record TV with my ZVM?

no you cannot record TV

I suppose I can hook the three hookups to my stereo receiver and play music videos throught that????????? BD

15:18 Splinter Cell Double Agent coming to PS3 (0)..

15:18 Splinter Cell Double Agent coming to PS3 (0)..

i bought a cord for HKD30- rougly 2.50 US. and it worked perfectly, with the audio levels a bit low

if any of you have the DEC PMP103 player (it's chinese), the video cable that comes with that also works with the zen

You beauties!!!!

I have been looking for the pin diagrams for this problem even since I got my Zen in the US and found that they don't sell the cable in New Zealand.

i read the article...it make sense...but i bought my zvm (60gb) through from creative's e-shop and it was send to me (i live in Greece where only one store has this and sells it for 400€ (aprx 440$) there is no cable or anything else available here....and i am not into cutting cables....there isn't any other way to have the video output??? (it doesn't have to do with the current article but despite the fact that i installed the latest Europe firmware....i cant get the radio work ok....the Greek frequencies are 88.0 to 108...and my zvm stop at 98... :( ) but is great piece of mp3 player.... this my 3rd zen.....

I just got a video Ipod cable and it worked fine on my Zen 30Gb I didnt change a thing. The Cable was $20 Australian Crest was the brand and the box said it was for Video Ipod. 4 pole 3RCA out

All I did was plug it in, oh and made sure that in the mp3 player setting the video was set to PAL insted of NTSC (video formats specific to different places) possibly why some of you have lines across the video when playing back.

Also I just updated the firmware and the new Album image compression make displaying album art much much faster, Im very happy.

I got the cable from here www.dse.com.au

Hope that helps

here is the item

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/45ae0a4000bc3d5a273fc0a87f9c06bd/Product/View/C0606

I bought the actual Zen Vision:M cable from Creative (supposedly) from Amazon.com (retailer www.antonline.com). I just got it in and I get stereo sound, but no video.

Anybody have this problem?

Pondering if the Zune A/V cables would work with the zen vision m.
Much obliged for your time.

I searching for a wiring diagram for the creative zen wired remote
for my zvm.

and i bought a a/v cable 4-pole to 3 rca but it dident work so i made a adaptter with 3 female rca to male rca its working just fine

Thanks. I bought a Griffin Ipod cable, thinking stupidly these cables are standardized and it would work. Nope. So I rewired!

Archos:
For others out there, the Griffin cable has a Red, White, Black, and Ground under the sheathing. The Video wire is the BLACK wire.

I would like to make my own cable but I have not been unable to find a 4 pole 3.5mm connector that I can solder my leads onto. Do any of you know where I can buy them from?

Splicing pre-bought cables is fine, and I know it will work, but I'd rather make my own cable.

Thanks

hey guys

so i went out and bought an i-pod a/v retractabke blah blah blah
anyways, i should of known.........
i kinda understand, but how would i switch my ground and my video?
i don't understand what i'd need to cut since the ground isn't a cable.

hey,

i should have read all the posting above first:)
sorry i'm 40 what can you do
anyways all the info was extremely helpful
thank you much

mustek av cable works perfectly (it makes portable video players etc. i hope this helps all.

The Epson P-3000 device has the same pinout as you mention above as a "Camcorder" cable. It is actually a Sony Camcorder cable as there is a different standard from Panasonic. Panasonic's pins are: 1=Right, 2=Ground, 3=Video, 4=Left

Anybody can tell me where can i get the video cable for Zen vision/archos/cowon in Hong Kong?

How much? I spend Hk$25 to buy one for Camcorder and find it could not work with my Archos..... ( "one-click" solution works perfectly however)

I bought a av cable throught ebay. And it said it work with zen vision m and when i tried it, it look all scrabbled whats the problem.

Hi there. I have a Dynex cable for an Ipod Video, and I am looking to make it work on a creative Zen Vision M. Would I just cut the sheathing back near the player and switch the ground and video, or how? I am very inexperienced for this sort of thing. Thanks

if yours is in black/white or w/ lines and shit just mess around w/ the output under (system-photo/video display settings) until you get it right

Hey, I just bought an V cable for the zen vision m, but when i connect it to the zen, it says, "changing display to av settings" then the screen goes blank, with no video or audio. What's wrong?

well, i bought a comun camcorder cable and work good. The only thing that i do is dont insert the plug complete in the creative zen , only 3 lines. The image is good and the chanel left too, the inconvenient is that the chanel right not work, but the image is perfect.

Well is an option

I thought I'd give the ZUNE's cable a try for the heck of it. Pulling it out 1 Click and plugging Red Output into the Video Input on my TV gave me video.

I got a cable off ebay and had to use the red RCA as the video feed.

Just got one of these today for $13. All Super Walmarts carry them. Plugs in all the way and works perfectly. Made by phillips.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/blog2/20060613/dvdp01-1150247777697-440_330.JPG

Meant to provide the model #: DVD01

Anyone know where to buy one cable for the ZVM to connect into the car auxiliary jack?? Usign the sync adapter really sucks.

Anyone know solution to this. I got my ZVM just about a month ago...but then all of a sudden the screen is kind of corrupted or something. All I see are white horizontal lines running across the screen. All seems to work well but the visibility of the screen is whacked. Any idea?

You can pick up the cable for the car auxilary jack at Best Buy; that's where i picked mine up at (about a year ago).

jaycar electronics (www.jaycar.com.au) sell a 4 pole 3.5mm gold jack. cat no pp0138.
HOWEVER the solder points on this connector are tiny. i work there and my soldering skills are quite good but i think splicing a premade cable would be easier. for those of you who are game this connector is the only one i know of.

P.S. this is an excellent thread.
P.P.S. creative beats ipood any day.

I've got a standard camcorder cable and I just spent the last half hour re-wiring one of those RCA-to-SCART plugs so that all the wires are in the right places again :o) I'll let you know if it works once I've uploaded some content to my Vision:M but I'm 99% confident it will!

Just to let you know it worked a treat :o)

i put a wire in the line in hole how do i get it to work again?????

my zen v plus will not work because i put a wire in line in hole how do i get it to work agin???? ps please help me!!!!!!!!

is their any chance that by using the 1 click pulled out method that it will be damaging my zen.

i bought a standard cable, and plugged red in yellow, and yellow in red.
it works perfectly. here in my country the cable costs about 6 dollars

I went to about 5 Super Walmarts in Southern and Central WI, USA. No luck! Either they dont carry them in this section of the country, or they no longer sell them up here.

Is there anything like this to make a cable for the cowon d2?

Simple and cheap solution for av out...
Buy an adapter (one side 3.5mm stereo, other stereo chinch)
Plug in the adapter bot not fully than just half of it in the av out
Buy an ordinary chinch cable and plug it in the other side of the adapter
Connect the chinch to the tv (don't know whitch side od the chinch is for video and whitch for audio but simply try both combinations) and you shall see the pictuner on your tv screen

For Questions : djzerorts@gmail.com

I just thought I'd mention this in case anyone can offer advice or confirm my thoughts:

I made up a 4-pole cable (soldering from scratch) for my Archos PMA400, to avoid paying for the travel cable. It plays TV and audio out fine, but will not pick up a TV signal when I try to use the VideoCorder application.

I think the problem is that I'm missing the extra four connections on either side of the 4-pole jack. I haven't been able to find out what these connections carry, but I guess it's something to do with the IR and Serial/Keyboard connections on the TV cradle.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

I just bought a DEH-P6900UB pioneer cd/mp3 deck with the usb control and Im trying to hook my Vision M up to it. I says that its compatible with the Ipod/usb cable for Ipods. Ive tried the Vision M full 30 pin (or however many) to usb cable, the 3.5 mm to usb cable etc.. has anyone figured out how to hook this up?? Or could you provide me with the pin diagrams for the vision m and ipod so I can try to make a cable that will work??

Getting out the soldering kit tonight to try some wiring...
I bought a 4pin cable for £3 ($6) off ebay for my Archos 400 and guess what, no picture, just some weird bars on the TV.

hi there guys,
does anyone know if the av cable for all of the archos players is the same? only there are a couple on amazon for the same price but with different model numbers?

many thanks

I too need one for an Archos. According to the chart above, the Zen and the Archos use the same type. (Standard "camcorder" cables don't work.) Anyway, I found the actual Zen branded cable at monoprice.com for $2.50! Just ordered one. Will have it in 2 days and can report back.

Just got my monoprice cable. Works like a charm.

iboooooook av cableee realllyy workkkkkks! thanxxx!

Does anyone know if the headphone jack also doubles for av out with the right cable?

The reason I ask... I have seen av cables which connect to the proprietry connection at the bottom of the Zen and ones which are 3.5" connections to RCA.

I have a genuine Zen Vision M dock which takes a 3.5" av connection. What I wanted to work out is if I buy a av cable which is RCA to 3.5" will it not only work on the dock's av output but also the headphone jack (provided it has the correct routing).

For the times I'm travelling without the dock...

Thanks

Does anyone know if the headphone jack also doubles for av out with the right cable?

The reason I ask... I have seen av cables which connect to the proprietry connection at the bottom of the Zen and ones which are 3.5" connections to RCA.

I have a genuine Zen Vision M dock which takes a 3.5" av connection. What I wanted to work out is if I buy a av cable which is RCA to 3.5" will it not only work on the dock's av output but also the headphone jack (provided it has the correct routing).

For the times I'm travelling without the dock...

Thanks

pls scratch my previous post. i realised you can just use sync adaptor...

Hi

can you tell me where i might be able to get my hands on a cable with the following pin-outs 1 - Ground, 2 - Red, 3 - White & 4 Yellow at about 3 meters in length

Cheers for the help Jamie

Ross is right.i have just tried it and it works!thanks buddy:-D

Jamie,you can use any standard commercial cable.all you have to do is to switch between the YELLOW(video connector)and the RED(audio connector).that means video to audio,audio to video.i use a cable from a sony camcorder and it works fine.just make sure you have activate the video out option in your player;-)n

how do u pull the 3.5 out one click

There's a little spelling mistake. I think it has to be Cowon instead of Cown in the picture. Just wanted to say that.
Nevertheless great work!

I need to know the pinout of the archos 605 connectors (the one used by the DOCs accessories. I am making a modification to interface a very high resolution video camera.

The Best Buy Insignia Pilot series of PMP use the same 4 pole cable as the Ipod Video. You could add that to your diagram. I wish it would have been there earlier today. :)

tk

I've had the same trouble here, looked at the jaycar 4pin 3.5mm plug- too difficult. looked at splicing the cable - messy for earth connections using sheathing. I bought 3xrca plugs, and 3x rca sockets, and am making an adapter - it's cheap, and easily available parts, and if I screw up, lower cost. here's my wiring diagram:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8072/wiringve1.png

I am really confused.
When I was buying my ZEN 4GB player they told me I can connect it to my TV. Now I read and read and read all post with all these symbols and I DON'T KNOW (yes, I AM a blond! ;) )
Simple two questions:
1. Is Zen 4GB playing videos on TV?
2. What cable (inexpensive one) I have to use?

Thank you for any advice: Kasia12345 hotmail

I dropped my vision:M 30 gb player and now the screen is scrambled, the player won't turn off, and my copmuter does not recognize the device when connected via USB. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

I dropped my vision:M 30 gb player and now the screen is scrambled, the player won't turn off, and my copmuter does not recognize the device when connected via USB. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

I just bought a Zen 8GB. I now see I can't connect it to the TV because it does not have an AV Out.

Is there anything i can buy to show my photos on my TV or do I have to buy a Zen Vision?

Thanks

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OK, here to clarify some fogginess for fellow zen vision m users:
i have a standard video cable from radioshack that i used for the zen. on this cord IF you switch the red and yellow it will work. NOW, another cable that came with my SHARP miniDV cam, it will work if you pull out ONE-NOTCH on the cord. So there are different cords, and different ways to connect them! good luck!

Will Thanks for the link http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/mabrandt5/ZVMrewiringguide.jpg on wiring as this is the correct way to do this without buying the creative cable...and nick as you and others stated on here "a standard video cable from radioshack that i used for the zen. on this cord IF you switch the red and yellow it will work" This is not true.. as I paid $29.00 for the Radio Shack cable switched the red and yellow and pluged white to white and still buzzed!!! and then tried pulling out 1 notch.. but then lost right channel... what's the sence of that, having a mp3 player hooked to the car audio/video system playing 'MONO' again as Will showed in the link, the grounds and other wires must be rewired... again Will Thank You very much as your way works perfectly !!!! JJJ

does anybody know of an extension cable that is 4 pole on both ends, prefferably female on both. trying to hook up archos pocketdish to the tv from accross the room. I travel 5 days a week with a back pack with no remote and regular rca cables are so heavy. anyway thanks if you have any ideas. ryan